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100k: - network 200k: - high signaled / luke warm outbound on dev communities (YC work at a startup job board is one) - referrals 300k++: - dedicated outb

by pxue 3y ago

100k: - network 200k: - high signaled / luke warm outbound on dev communities (YC work at a startup job board is one) - referrals 300k++: - dedicated outbound tech sale person

mylons 3y ago
you hired a sales person? can you elaborate on that?
- pxue 3y ago
  Yeah. I have a dedicated outbound sales person who pings their network for referrals every few weeks. Their job is to weed out noise + educate + convert hourly to project based billing Went into a lot of detail on Reddit a couple years back here https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/ommiww/comment/h5mz744/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/ommiww/commen...
  - tuukkah 3y ago
    > convert hourly to project based billing I can see how that helps in increasing revenue, but it also makes the work less agile, requires longer negotiations and adds risks. So it's probably not for everyone. Some others have found a way to bill similar amounts but on short projects billed by the day/week. That sounds preferable to me, but you need to have a skill that produces value in such short projects.
    - pxue 3y ago
      I do it mostly for legal purposes.
      - tuukkah 3y ago
        Are you saying project-based billing has fewer legal risks - could you expand on that?
      - pxue 3y ago
        Hit nested reply limit. Reach out to me on twitter I'll give you deets. Links in my bio
    - itsoktocry 3y ago
      >but you need to have a skill that produces value in such short projects. I assume you're a software developer? There's your skill. I think you're overthinking this. How is it less agile? You have a project, a price and a timeline. Everything between then and the end is on your schedule. The only "unintuitive" skill you need to hone is assessing value and pricing based on that. But there is endless analysis and analogies out there to help.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Based on what I've seen other people do, it's basically someone who does the lead prospecting and qualification for you. They can be paid commission or flat, but are usually paid both.
arrowsmith 3y ago
Do you work for a lot of different clients at once? How do things work day-to-day?

by pxue 3y ago

100k: - network 200k: - high signaled / luke warm outbound on dev communities (YC work at a startup job board is one) - referrals 300k++: - dedicated outbound tech sale person

mylons 3y ago

you hired a sales person? can you elaborate on that?

pxue 3y ago
Yeah. I have a dedicated outbound sales person who pings their network for referrals every few weeks. Their job is to weed out noise + educate + convert hourly to project based billing Went into a lot of detail on Reddit a couple years back here https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/ommiww/comment/h5mz744/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/ommiww/commen...
- tuukkah 3y ago
  > convert hourly to project based billing I can see how that helps in increasing revenue, but it also makes the work less agile, requires longer negotiations and adds risks. So it's probably not for everyone. Some others have found a way to bill similar amounts but on short projects billed by the day/week. That sounds preferable to me, but you need to have a skill that produces value in such short projects.
  - pxue 3y ago
    I do it mostly for legal purposes.
    - tuukkah 3y ago
      Are you saying project-based billing has fewer legal risks - could you expand on that?
    - pxue 3y ago
      Hit nested reply limit. Reach out to me on twitter I'll give you deets. Links in my bio
  - itsoktocry 3y ago
    >but you need to have a skill that produces value in such short projects. I assume you're a software developer? There's your skill. I think you're overthinking this. How is it less agile? You have a project, a price and a timeline. Everything between then and the end is on your schedule. The only "unintuitive" skill you need to hone is assessing value and pricing based on that. But there is endless analysis and analogies out there to help.
satvikpendem 3y ago
Based on what I've seen other people do, it's basically someone who does the lead prospecting and qualification for you. They can be paid commission or flat, but are usually paid both.

arrowsmith 3y ago

Do you work for a lot of different clients at once? How do things work day-to-day?