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Biodiversity goals are nonsense. Don't bet against evolution abd natural selection.

by cvalka 3y ago

myshpa 3y ago
We can't survive without biodiversity. All previous mass extinctions took approximately 1.8 million years. We might be able to manage the current one in 100 years. There's nothing natural about this extinction, and there isn't enough time for evolution either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/01/insect-removal-problems-ecosystem/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/01/insect-re... “We are seeing the rapid decline of insects pretty much anywhere that they’re studied.” It’s hard to overstate how ruinous this could be. If this mass extinction of insects isn’t reversed, it will decimate the entire food chain, threaten crop pollination and generally cause havoc. Some bird and mammal populations are already shrinking even faster than the bugs are. Without insects, the legendary biologist E.O. Wilson wrote nearly 40 years ago, “I doubt that the human species could last more than a few months.” First, “most of the fishes, amphibians, birds and mammals would crash to extinction.” Next would go the flowering plants and forests. “The earth would rot,” he continued, and the remaining vertebrates would disappear. “Within a few decades the world would return to the state of a billion years ago, composed primarily of bacteria, algae and a few other very simple multicellular plants.”
- cvalka 3y ago
  Insects aren't going anywhere and Dana Milbank is a moron.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    Ah, that was truly a riveting exchange of ideas. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320719317823 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000632071... Scientists' warning to humanity on insect extinctions https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/earth-systems/the-insect-effect/ https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/earth-systems/the-insect-e... The Insect Effect: Insect Decline and the Future of Our Planet https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-insect-population-flying-bugs-climate-change-pesticides-population-decline-2017-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-insect-population-fl... A 27-year study found the amount of insects flying in the air has declined 75% https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeting-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeti... Plummeting insect numbers 'threaten collapse of nature' https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/insect-bug-medicine-food-macneal https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/insect-bu... Without Bugs, We Might All Be Dead https://e360.yale.edu/features/insect_numbers_declining_why_it_matters https://e360.yale.edu/features/insect_numbers_declining_why_... What’s Causing the Sharp Decline in Insects, and Why It Matters Insect populations are declining dramatically in many parts of the world, recent studies show. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52399373 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52399373 Nature crisis: 'Insect apocalypse' more complicated than thought https://phys.org/news/2019-02-world-catastrophic-collapse-insects.html https://phys.org/news/2019-02-world-catastrophic-collapse-in... World seeing 'catastrophic collapse' of insects: study https://phys.org/news/2020-02-half-a-million-insect-species-extinction-scientists.html https://phys.org/news/2020-02-half-a-million-insect-species-... Half-a-million insect species face extinction: scientists And that's just insects.
- cvalka 3y ago
  After reading your comments, I believe people like you are extremely dangerous and an enemy that needs to be dealt with. You are a threat to innovation, science and technology and the human progress in general.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    Innovation, science, technology, and human progress can coexist harmoniously with nature, and advocating for its preservation is not an impediment, but rather a catalyst for a sustainable future. The most violent element in society is ignorance.
illiac786 3y ago
It's funny how the whole thread has a repeating rythm: "Long comment with lots of quotes and moderated tone explaining how it's all going to shit, and fast" "Bullshit, a mosquito bit me yesterday" Such answers really sound and read like classic denial. On the other hand, it's a very classic human reaction in the face of oblivion. otherwise, not only is humanity coming to an end, but additionally one has a bad conscience. Unacceptable.

Biodiversity goals are nonsense. Don't bet against evolution abd natural selection.

by cvalka 3y ago

Biodiversity goals are nonsense. Don't bet against evolution abd natural selection.

We can't survive without biodiversity. All previous mass extinctions took approximately 1.8 million years. We might be able to manage the current one in 100 years. There's nothing natural about this extinction, and there isn't enough time for evolution either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/01/insect-removal-problems-ecosystem/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/01/insect-re... “We are seeing the rapid decline of insects pretty much anywhere that they’re studied.” It’s hard to overstate how ruinous this could be. If this mass extinction of insects isn’t reversed, it will decimate the entire food chain, threaten crop pollination and generally cause havoc. Some bird and mammal populations are already shrinking even faster than the bugs are. Without insects, the legendary biologist E.O. Wilson wrote nearly 40 years ago, “I doubt that the human species could last more than a few months.” First, “most of the fishes, amphibians, birds and mammals would crash to extinction.” Next would go the flowering plants and forests. “The earth would rot,” he continued, and the remaining vertebrates would disappear. “Within a few decades the world would return to the state of a billion years ago, composed primarily of bacteria, algae and a few other very simple multicellular plants.”

cvalka 3y ago
Insects aren't going anywhere and Dana Milbank is a moron.
- myshpa 3y ago
  Ah, that was truly a riveting exchange of ideas. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320719317823 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000632071... Scientists' warning to humanity on insect extinctions https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/earth-systems/the-insect-effect/ https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/earth-systems/the-insect-e... The Insect Effect: Insect Decline and the Future of Our Planet https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-insect-population-flying-bugs-climate-change-pesticides-population-decline-2017-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-insect-population-fl... A 27-year study found the amount of insects flying in the air has declined 75% https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeting-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeti... Plummeting insect numbers 'threaten collapse of nature' https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/insect-bug-medicine-food-macneal https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/insect-bu... Without Bugs, We Might All Be Dead https://e360.yale.edu/features/insect_numbers_declining_why_it_matters https://e360.yale.edu/features/insect_numbers_declining_why_... What’s Causing the Sharp Decline in Insects, and Why It Matters Insect populations are declining dramatically in many parts of the world, recent studies show. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52399373 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52399373 Nature crisis: 'Insect apocalypse' more complicated than thought https://phys.org/news/2019-02-world-catastrophic-collapse-insects.html https://phys.org/news/2019-02-world-catastrophic-collapse-in... World seeing 'catastrophic collapse' of insects: study https://phys.org/news/2020-02-half-a-million-insect-species-extinction-scientists.html https://phys.org/news/2020-02-half-a-million-insect-species-... Half-a-million insect species face extinction: scientists And that's just insects.
cvalka 3y ago
After reading your comments, I believe people like you are extremely dangerous and an enemy that needs to be dealt with. You are a threat to innovation, science and technology and the human progress in general.
- myshpa 3y ago
  Innovation, science, technology, and human progress can coexist harmoniously with nature, and advocating for its preservation is not an impediment, but rather a catalyst for a sustainable future. The most violent element in society is ignorance.

illiac786 3y ago

It's funny how the whole thread has a repeating rythm: "Long comment with lots of quotes and moderated tone explaining how it's all going to shit, and fast" "Bullshit, a mosquito bit me yesterday" Such answers really sound and read like classic denial. On the other hand, it's a very classic human reaction in the face of oblivion. otherwise, not only is humanity coming to an end, but additionally one has a bad conscience. Unacceptable.