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Just out of curiosity, if you went back in time to early America, would you rally some slaves together and tell them all not to put up with the shit from their

by daenz 15y ago

Just out of curiosity, if you went back in time to early America, would you rally some slaves together and tell them all not to put up with the shit from their owners? Would you call them cowards for not all trying to run away? Or would you tell them to "hang in there, things will get better"?

Jabbles 15y ago
Slaves were in imminent danger of being killed for minor offences. The situation isn't really comparable. Also, I'm not accusing Katie of cowardice.
- mhartl 15y ago
  Slaves were in imminent danger of being killed for minor offences. Were they? I'd bet that everything you've ever read or seen about slavery was produced by abolitionists and their intellectual descendants. Perhaps this might slightly color your views on the subject. By the way, before you call me a horrible person again, please read carefully. Nothing in the above paragraph implies an endorsement of slavery.
  - Jabbles 15y ago
    Well, it's not my area of expertise... If you'd like to direct me to where I can read a more balanced view of the history of slavery I would be pleased to read it.
    - mhartl 15y ago
      Sure thing. The West Indies As They Are (1824) by Rev. Richard Bickell. It was written about slavery in Jamaica, where conditions were almost certainly worse than in the American South. http://books.google.com/books?id=Y4QZYM7MOUcC&printsec=toc&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0#PPR3,M1 http://books.google.com/books?id=Y4QZYM7MOUcC&printsec=t... South-Side View of Slavery (1854) by Nehemiah Adams, a Unitarian minister and abolitionist. http://books.google.com/books?id=sCg7P2c3W5MC&printsec=titlepage http://books.google.com/books?id=sCg7P2c3W5MC&printsec=t... American Negro Slavery (1918) by Ulrich Phillips. http://books.google.com/books?id=7E1_n7O9KvIC&printsec=titlepage&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=7E1_n7O9KvIC&printsec=t...

by daenz 15y ago

Jabbles 15y ago

Slaves were in imminent danger of being killed for minor offences. The situation isn't really comparable. Also, I'm not accusing Katie of cowardice.

mhartl 15y ago
Slaves were in imminent danger of being killed for minor offences. Were they? I'd bet that everything you've ever read or seen about slavery was produced by abolitionists and their intellectual descendants. Perhaps this might slightly color your views on the subject. By the way, before you call me a horrible person again, please read carefully. Nothing in the above paragraph implies an endorsement of slavery.
- Jabbles 15y ago
  Well, it's not my area of expertise... If you'd like to direct me to where I can read a more balanced view of the history of slavery I would be pleased to read it.
  - mhartl 15y ago
    Sure thing. The West Indies As They Are (1824) by Rev. Richard Bickell. It was written about slavery in Jamaica, where conditions were almost certainly worse than in the American South. http://books.google.com/books?id=Y4QZYM7MOUcC&printsec=toc&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0#PPR3,M1 http://books.google.com/books?id=Y4QZYM7MOUcC&printsec=t... South-Side View of Slavery (1854) by Nehemiah Adams, a Unitarian minister and abolitionist. http://books.google.com/books?id=sCg7P2c3W5MC&printsec=titlepage http://books.google.com/books?id=sCg7P2c3W5MC&printsec=t... American Negro Slavery (1918) by Ulrich Phillips. http://books.google.com/books?id=7E1_n7O9KvIC&printsec=titlepage&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=7E1_n7O9KvIC&printsec=t...