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Acceptance is the only rational response when you lack sufficient power to effect change.

by mhartl 15y ago

InclinedPlane 15y ago
How do you know you lack sufficient power to effect change if you don't try?
- daenz 15y ago
  Who said nobody tried? Just out of curiosity, if you went back in time to early America, would you rally some slaves together and tell them all not to put up with the shit from their owners? Would you call them cowards for not all trying to run away? Or would you tell them to "hang in there, things will get better"?
  - InclinedPlane 15y ago
    Uhhh, I'd smuggle them somewhere else where they could live free, duh. This isn't exactly the best example. Also, are you seriously saying that you'd tell folks who will live their entire lives and die as slaves to just "hang in there"?
    - daenz 15y ago
      > Uhhh, I'd smuggle them somewhere else where they could live free, duh. This isn't exactly the best example. Sure you would, buddy. Just like you're out there beating up the people who are oppressing the original poster, like fucking batman. > Also, are you seriously saying that you'd tell folks who will live their entire lives and die as slaves to just "hang in there"? Yeah, I would. Because if you have any foresight, you can see that its a transitional period, and is unsustainable, and is in the process of changing. I can help more people alive than I can dead for smuggling a few slaves out.
      - DanBC 15y ago
        "Schindler's List" would have made a lousy movie if he just told people to "Hang in There".
        daenz 15y ago
        And who says he never did do that? You think he never came across people who were too risky to try to save? Why wasn't he able to save all the jews? My point was that it's pretty far fetched for anyone to believe InclinedPlane would risk his life saving slaves when he won't even risk his career trying to legally torpedo the original poster's workplace. It's posturing, nothing more.
        InclinedPlane 15y ago
        "Why wasn't he able to save all the jews?" Because all of the other Germans who didn't agree with what was happening just accepted it and went along. Are we done here?
        mhartl 15y ago
        Not to mention the Allies not giving a shit.
        daenz 15y ago
        > Because all of the other Germans who didn't agree with what was happening just accepted it and went along. That's not why Schindler didn't save all the jews. The point was risk analysis. > Are we done here? Unless you want to inject yourself between my reply to another poster again, yes. Feel free to see yourself out.
        InclinedPlane 15y ago
        Hey man, lighten up.
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- mhartl 15y ago
  I think threatening to fire men for commenting on women's dresses counts as trying.
doidydoidy 15y ago
"Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

Acceptance is the only rational response when you lack sufficient power to effect change.

by mhartl 15y ago

Acceptance is the only rational response when you lack sufficient power to effect change.

InclinedPlane 15y ago

How do you know you lack sufficient power to effect change if you don't try?

daenz 15y ago
Who said nobody tried? Just out of curiosity, if you went back in time to early America, would you rally some slaves together and tell them all not to put up with the shit from their owners? Would you call them cowards for not all trying to run away? Or would you tell them to "hang in there, things will get better"?
- InclinedPlane 15y ago
  Uhhh, I'd smuggle them somewhere else where they could live free, duh. This isn't exactly the best example. Also, are you seriously saying that you'd tell folks who will live their entire lives and die as slaves to just "hang in there"?
  - daenz 15y ago
    > Uhhh, I'd smuggle them somewhere else where they could live free, duh. This isn't exactly the best example. Sure you would, buddy. Just like you're out there beating up the people who are oppressing the original poster, like fucking batman. > Also, are you seriously saying that you'd tell folks who will live their entire lives and die as slaves to just "hang in there"? Yeah, I would. Because if you have any foresight, you can see that its a transitional period, and is unsustainable, and is in the process of changing. I can help more people alive than I can dead for smuggling a few slaves out.
    - DanBC 15y ago
      "Schindler's List" would have made a lousy movie if he just told people to "Hang in There".
      - daenz 15y ago
        And who says he never did do that? You think he never came across people who were too risky to try to save? Why wasn't he able to save all the jews? My point was that it's pretty far fetched for anyone to believe InclinedPlane would risk his life saving slaves when he won't even risk his career trying to legally torpedo the original poster's workplace. It's posturing, nothing more.
        InclinedPlane 15y ago
        "Why wasn't he able to save all the jews?" Because all of the other Germans who didn't agree with what was happening just accepted it and went along. Are we done here?
        mhartl 15y ago
        Not to mention the Allies not giving a shit.
        daenz 15y ago
        > Because all of the other Germans who didn't agree with what was happening just accepted it and went along. That's not why Schindler didn't save all the jews. The point was risk analysis. > Are we done here? Unless you want to inject yourself between my reply to another poster again, yes. Feel free to see yourself out.
        InclinedPlane 15y ago
        Hey man, lighten up.
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mhartl 15y ago
I think threatening to fire men for commenting on women's dresses counts as trying.

doidydoidy 15y ago

"Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."