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> I've yet to hear a counter proposal to drm to protect the artists work > Instead you'll hear anecdotes or idealistic arguments for why an artist have to gamb

> I've yet to hear a counter proposal to drm to protect the artists work > Instead you'll hear anecdotes or idealistic arguments for why an artist have to gamble with getting money for their work. This is the current state for nearly every single artist even with DRM, because things like DRM seem to almost exclusively benefit a handful of people at the rest of the world’s expense.

0dayz 3y ago
Yes, but those are factors that does not involve piracy/forgery. My point is that no drm doesn't give any advantage to the artist from a monetary pov. Drm at least makes it less likely an artist will lose out on potential sales. Hence why I make the point that if we want a drm free world, we should focus on coming up with better alternatives to what we have.
- brandonmenc 3y ago
  > we should focus on coming up with better alternatives to what we have Agree. But the best alternative might actually be one where artists (Disney included) can’t “own” their art and where you can’t make money selling copies of digital files.
  - 0dayz 3y ago
    I don't think so, it's too idealistic in todays world, even if we eliminate all form of material capital - art I think will only increase in value as it will become more valuable and competitive for us. I think a better solution as of right now is a redefinition of copyright, that copyright is handled primary by a agency like the Copyright Office that deals with registration and licensing of said copyright work. And copyright itself would be granted to the individuals who created said creative work (we would probably need to make clear distinctions between say creative art and more "logical" things like code) and they would be payed loyalty for each type of license the copyright office would issue (license for private use, in a 1 time production, continuous and lifetime license). Companies could sponsor said creative work and get a free lifetime license. Obviously I'm not a lawyer but I believe something like this, where copyright is as rigid in protection towards the original creators and allows for a much more fluid exchange of information depending on circumstance is at least a step in the right direction.

0dayz 3y ago

Yes, but those are factors that does not involve piracy/forgery. My point is that no drm doesn't give any advantage to the artist from a monetary pov. Drm at least makes it less likely an artist will lose out on potential sales. Hence why I make the point that if we want a drm free world, we should focus on coming up with better alternatives to what we have.

brandonmenc 3y ago
> we should focus on coming up with better alternatives to what we have Agree. But the best alternative might actually be one where artists (Disney included) can’t “own” their art and where you can’t make money selling copies of digital files.
- 0dayz 3y ago
  I don't think so, it's too idealistic in todays world, even if we eliminate all form of material capital - art I think will only increase in value as it will become more valuable and competitive for us. I think a better solution as of right now is a redefinition of copyright, that copyright is handled primary by a agency like the Copyright Office that deals with registration and licensing of said copyright work. And copyright itself would be granted to the individuals who created said creative work (we would probably need to make clear distinctions between say creative art and more "logical" things like code) and they would be payed loyalty for each type of license the copyright office would issue (license for private use, in a 1 time production, continuous and lifetime license). Companies could sponsor said creative work and get a free lifetime license. Obviously I'm not a lawyer but I believe something like this, where copyright is as rigid in protection towards the original creators and allows for a much more fluid exchange of information depending on circumstance is at least a step in the right direction.