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Agreed. (Except for the part where you're not actually against of these changes in isolation. I was against all of them.) Notarization is one of the most misund
by lapcat 3y ago
Agreed. (Except for the part where you're not actually against of these changes in isolation. I was against all of them.) Notarization is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Mac lockdown. It was just another annoying layer atop the preexisting system of Gatekeeper and Developer ID.
Also missing on the Apple side are crucial dates such as 2007, the introduction of the locked down iPhone, and 2008, the introduction of the crApp Store.
Apple did a bait and switch with iPhone lockdown. Many people seem to forget that it wasn't initially justified in terms of protecting the end user. Rather, it was justified in terms of protecting the cell phone carriers, i.e., "Cingular doesn’t want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up." Which we knew was total B.S. at the time, but that was the initial story. The Orwellian move was later made to change the story, and now it has always been about protecting the end user (from themselves).
- cachvico 3y ago> Rather, it was justified in terms of protecting the cell phone carriers I don't remember that at all. I do remember Jobs resisting the app store because he wanted everything to be a web app though (despite resisting the move to responsive web design). Can you provide a source for your claim?
- lapcat 3y ago> Can you provide a source for your claim? "Cingular doesn’t want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up" is literally a quote from Steve Jobs. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/01/steve-jobs-knows-best/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/01/steve-jobs-knows-bes... https://www.engadget.com/2007-01-11-jobs-confirms-iphone-is-a-closed-platform.html https://www.engadget.com/2007-01-11-jobs-confirms-iphone-is-... https://www.zdnet.com/article/steve-jobs-the-iphone-and-open-platforms/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/steve-jobs-the-iphone-and-open... https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/att-welcomes-programmers-for-all-phones-except-the-iphone/ https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/0... https://www.wired.com/2007/01/why-i-want-a-locked-iphone-2/ https://www.wired.com/2007/01/why-i-want-a-locked-iphone-2/ Of course this just proves another thing I said, which was "Many people seem to forget".
- cachvico 3y agoInteresting - thanks! Seems odd to imagine a userspace app could take down a carrier network.
- OkGoDoIt 3y ago2.5G and 3G networks were bad at the time, and many phone plans that included data had unlimited data. The only thing that kept them up was the fact that so few people had data-capable smart phones.