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I'm not too familiar with politics etc in Canada but just looking at the headlines you can tell this is basically a right wing tabloid, Alex Jones quackery for

I'm not too familiar with politics etc in Canada but just looking at the headlines you can tell this is basically a right wing tabloid, Alex Jones quackery for Canadians.

decremental 3y ago
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the_third_wave 3y ago
How about reacting to the message instead of the messenger? Then there is the fact that there are several recent occasions where such "right wing tabloid(s)" turned out to be right while the "good, responsible and professional" left-wing publications were very much in the wrong. Blindly siding with any type of publication just makes you a tool for their use whether that'd be a left-wing "useful idiot" along Lenin's lines or the right-wing equivalent.
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  my point is the entire site feels shady. also I'm not talking about left wing publications. I'm talking about major news outlets like the ny times, local news papers and tv stations, CNN, etc. I'm also curious what stories you think right wing tabloids got right.
  - the_third_wave 3y ago
    > I'm not talking about left wing publications. I'm talking about major news outlets like the ny times That is a contradiction nowadays, the NYT is squarely on the left side of the political spectrum [1]. This goes for the news department but even more for the opinion department which leans even further to the left [2]. As in what "right wing tabloids" got right the prime example is the "Hunter Biden laptop story" - which is far more than a single story but which has become known under those terms. Even though they were factually correct the "left-wing media" has done its best to smear them, try to connect them to "The Russians", label them and otherwise avoid touching the factually correct reporting on Biden's son and what that entails for "The Big Guy". There are other examples where they got things (mostly) right where the "left-wing media" after several years of denial finally came around, a good example of this is the origins of the SARS2 pandemic where the lab leak option was directly put aside simply because their undesirable person #1 (Trump) happened to suggest it. When I read something on e.g. The Guardian I'm flabbergasted by the torrent of climate scare propaganda they keep on pushing which makes it hard for me to take them seriously. That does not mean everything they publish is nonsense, sometimes they engage in factually correct reporting on salient issues. This is why I don't immediately denounce anything published by them as being tainted by their propagandistic tendencies. So, look at the message, not solely at the messenger. If I can do so I do not see why you couldn't. [1] https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times [2] https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-...
fortran77 3y ago
This is certainly not a right wing tabloid. They even take pains to say that there may have been cases at other locations. > Of course, this finding doesn’t mean no bodies exist at any former residential site, and it doesn’t mean there wasn’t abuse at the site in question — or any site, for that matter This means you don’t bother reading things that go against your preconceived notions.
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  it seems very politically motivated is all I saying. are there corroborating articles by official press like CNN, or even local print news or local tv stations?

I'm not too familiar with politics etc in Canada but just looking at the headlines you can tell this is basically a right wing tabloid, Alex Jones quackery for Canadians.

decremental 3y ago

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the_third_wave 3y ago

How about reacting to the message instead of the messenger? Then there is the fact that there are several recent occasions where such "right wing tabloid(s)" turned out to be right while the "good, responsible and professional" left-wing publications were very much in the wrong. Blindly siding with any type of publication just makes you a tool for their use whether that'd be a left-wing "useful idiot" along Lenin's lines or the right-wing equivalent.

gremlinsinc 3y ago
my point is the entire site feels shady. also I'm not talking about left wing publications. I'm talking about major news outlets like the ny times, local news papers and tv stations, CNN, etc. I'm also curious what stories you think right wing tabloids got right.
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  > I'm not talking about left wing publications. I'm talking about major news outlets like the ny times That is a contradiction nowadays, the NYT is squarely on the left side of the political spectrum [1]. This goes for the news department but even more for the opinion department which leans even further to the left [2]. As in what "right wing tabloids" got right the prime example is the "Hunter Biden laptop story" - which is far more than a single story but which has become known under those terms. Even though they were factually correct the "left-wing media" has done its best to smear them, try to connect them to "The Russians", label them and otherwise avoid touching the factually correct reporting on Biden's son and what that entails for "The Big Guy". There are other examples where they got things (mostly) right where the "left-wing media" after several years of denial finally came around, a good example of this is the origins of the SARS2 pandemic where the lab leak option was directly put aside simply because their undesirable person #1 (Trump) happened to suggest it. When I read something on e.g. The Guardian I'm flabbergasted by the torrent of climate scare propaganda they keep on pushing which makes it hard for me to take them seriously. That does not mean everything they publish is nonsense, sometimes they engage in factually correct reporting on salient issues. This is why I don't immediately denounce anything published by them as being tainted by their propagandistic tendencies. So, look at the message, not solely at the messenger. If I can do so I do not see why you couldn't. [1] https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times [2] https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-...

fortran77 3y ago

This is certainly not a right wing tabloid. They even take pains to say that there may have been cases at other locations. > Of course, this finding doesn’t mean no bodies exist at any former residential site, and it doesn’t mean there wasn’t abuse at the site in question — or any site, for that matter This means you don’t bother reading things that go against your preconceived notions.

gremlinsinc 3y ago
it seems very politically motivated is all I saying. are there corroborating articles by official press like CNN, or even local print news or local tv stations?