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I maintain something like this. You're talking about maybe ten lines of ruby to accomplish getting this into Homebrew. It would just download this url and perfo

by ghotli 3y ago

I maintain something like this. You're talking about maybe ten lines of ruby to accomplish getting this into Homebrew. It would just download this url and perform a checksum.

satvikpendem 3y ago
Sounds good, sounds like the creator will have an easy time of adding it to Homebrew then. Until then I will continue using other apps that are already on there.
- joshmanders 3y ago
  If it's so simple, why don't you do it since YOU'RE the one who wants it there so badly? You claim it's so easy, just a few minutes, yet you spent more time telling everyone how easy it is for him to do, than just doing it yourself. Can we stop expecting developers to jump to every little request given for a free app?
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    Like threeseed said in sibling comments, it seems strange to make users do this, all the while trying to use it as a free product to drive traffic to the paid one, which is equivalent to itsycal which is entirely free and open source? Why should the users perform free labor for the creator, while the creator gets to keep all of their paid version's revenue? It is not on the user to add it to Homebrew, it is on the creator. I am not sure why this is contentious at all, except for the sake of arguing. Homebrew packages are usually maintained by the creator, not the user.
    - joshmanders 3y ago
      > which is equivalent to itsycal which is entirely free and open source? > Why should the users perform free labor for the creator, while the creator gets to keep all of their paid version's revenue? It's clear you have no desire to use this at all, you've mentioned many times in this whole parent thread that you would rather use ItsyCal even over this because it has more features... So what exactly is your goal with these demands? Just to make Sindre do something you want? > It is not on the user to add it to Homebrew, it is on the creator. No it's not. The creator has no obligation to do anything for anyone, paid or free. Stop being entitled.
      - satvikpendem 3y ago
        I don't wish to make the creator do anything, all I asked was why it was not on Homebrew rather than having a non app store version be updated only once a year. Then you asked why I don't do it myself. I don't believe the user should be doing stuff like this that is the creator's job. As I said earlier, they don't have to do anything, but at the same time I don't have to use it either. I have no "demands," I don't "demand" that they add it. All I said was that if they do, I'll use it. Again, you haven't answered why users should do it for free while it's a traffic funnel for a paid app. Seems you know this creator personally and support them, but I don't, and most users don't either, and many users use Homebrew so if they don't see it on there, they likely won't use it either. It's not entitlement, it's simply how it works. You wouldn't go into a store who said their inventory is only updated once a year while a store right next to it is updated regularly. Nothing to do with the quality of products in said store, but they're just not the target customer. All this to again say why it's a point of contention to ask, not even why it's not on Homebrew, which wasn't even my point, but why they're expending extra effort to update it once a year when they could make their lives a lot easier by adding it to Homebrew and having it be done automatically.
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threeseed 3y ago
And then what if the URL changes or the creator completely changes how it is hosted. It seems odd to place the onus on users to help drive traffic for a paid product.

by ghotli 3y ago

I maintain something like this. You're talking about maybe ten lines of ruby to accomplish getting this into Homebrew. It would just download this url and perform a checksum.

satvikpendem 3y ago

Sounds good, sounds like the creator will have an easy time of adding it to Homebrew then. Until then I will continue using other apps that are already on there.

joshmanders 3y ago
If it's so simple, why don't you do it since YOU'RE the one who wants it there so badly? You claim it's so easy, just a few minutes, yet you spent more time telling everyone how easy it is for him to do, than just doing it yourself. Can we stop expecting developers to jump to every little request given for a free app?
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Like threeseed said in sibling comments, it seems strange to make users do this, all the while trying to use it as a free product to drive traffic to the paid one, which is equivalent to itsycal which is entirely free and open source? Why should the users perform free labor for the creator, while the creator gets to keep all of their paid version's revenue? It is not on the user to add it to Homebrew, it is on the creator. I am not sure why this is contentious at all, except for the sake of arguing. Homebrew packages are usually maintained by the creator, not the user.
  - joshmanders 3y ago
    > which is equivalent to itsycal which is entirely free and open source? > Why should the users perform free labor for the creator, while the creator gets to keep all of their paid version's revenue? It's clear you have no desire to use this at all, you've mentioned many times in this whole parent thread that you would rather use ItsyCal even over this because it has more features... So what exactly is your goal with these demands? Just to make Sindre do something you want? > It is not on the user to add it to Homebrew, it is on the creator. No it's not. The creator has no obligation to do anything for anyone, paid or free. Stop being entitled.
    - satvikpendem 3y ago
      I don't wish to make the creator do anything, all I asked was why it was not on Homebrew rather than having a non app store version be updated only once a year. Then you asked why I don't do it myself. I don't believe the user should be doing stuff like this that is the creator's job. As I said earlier, they don't have to do anything, but at the same time I don't have to use it either. I have no "demands," I don't "demand" that they add it. All I said was that if they do, I'll use it. Again, you haven't answered why users should do it for free while it's a traffic funnel for a paid app. Seems you know this creator personally and support them, but I don't, and most users don't either, and many users use Homebrew so if they don't see it on there, they likely won't use it either. It's not entitlement, it's simply how it works. You wouldn't go into a store who said their inventory is only updated once a year while a store right next to it is updated regularly. Nothing to do with the quality of products in said store, but they're just not the target customer. All this to again say why it's a point of contention to ask, not even why it's not on Homebrew, which wasn't even my point, but why they're expending extra effort to update it once a year when they could make their lives a lot easier by adding it to Homebrew and having it be done automatically.
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threeseed 3y ago

And then what if the URL changes or the creator completely changes how it is hosted. It seems odd to place the onus on users to help drive traffic for a paid product.