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I remember seeing a vice video where a cartel soldier said that every level of government in Mexico is paid with cartel money.

danielheath 3y ago
Who is giving the cartel that money?
- chrischen 3y ago
  Americans. But it’s more like the head-end of Americans paying cartels for drugs and in order to pacify the ass-end from complaining they, in collusion with Mexico, have to make it “look like” they are doing something about it.
  - hx8 3y ago
    Excuse me. Are you suggesting that rich individuals are subsidizing the importation of illegal drugs that are consumed by average Americans?
    - danielheath 3y ago
      … you know the CIA imported and sold drugs in the USA? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traf...
- sublinear 3y ago
  The entire world. The drug trade is global and the USA is a huge market, perhaps the biggest. Also worth reminding people that the whole point of money laundering is to keep the operations going without having to keep big secrets or make anyone unnecessary complicit. It's not about corruption, shady business, or legislation. Those are all lies told to get normal people to believe even uglier lies. No, it can all be completely reformed, swamp drained, and regularly audited to be squeaky clean and still the money and drugs will continue to flow unimpeded. This is outside the scope of individual governments. Even if the USA and Mexico cooperated perfectly, the money is already clean before it hits their domestic banks and the smuggling is less about avoiding getting caught and more about overwhelming the system. This is why it's called a "war" on drugs.
- LorenzoGood 3y ago
  The world drug trade.
standardUser 3y ago
I don't know whose opinion I value less on the matter, a random soldier or Vice.
- azinman2 3y ago
  Except it came out a few years ago Fox was on the payroll. We know it’s gone all the way to the presidency.

danielheath 3y ago

Who is giving the cartel that money?

chrischen 3y ago
Americans. But it’s more like the head-end of Americans paying cartels for drugs and in order to pacify the ass-end from complaining they, in collusion with Mexico, have to make it “look like” they are doing something about it.
- hx8 3y ago
  Excuse me. Are you suggesting that rich individuals are subsidizing the importation of illegal drugs that are consumed by average Americans?
  - danielheath 3y ago
    … you know the CIA imported and sold drugs in the USA? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traf...
sublinear 3y ago
The entire world. The drug trade is global and the USA is a huge market, perhaps the biggest. Also worth reminding people that the whole point of money laundering is to keep the operations going without having to keep big secrets or make anyone unnecessary complicit. It's not about corruption, shady business, or legislation. Those are all lies told to get normal people to believe even uglier lies. No, it can all be completely reformed, swamp drained, and regularly audited to be squeaky clean and still the money and drugs will continue to flow unimpeded. This is outside the scope of individual governments. Even if the USA and Mexico cooperated perfectly, the money is already clean before it hits their domestic banks and the smuggling is less about avoiding getting caught and more about overwhelming the system. This is why it's called a "war" on drugs.
LorenzoGood 3y ago
The world drug trade.

standardUser 3y ago

I don't know whose opinion I value less on the matter, a random soldier or Vice.

azinman2 3y ago
Except it came out a few years ago Fox was on the payroll. We know it’s gone all the way to the presidency.