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Supplier caught distributing fake parts for world’s top-selling jet engine

44 points by quakeguy 3y ago

jjk166 3y ago
Fake seems like a misnomer. Improperly documented or unauthorized would be better. The form they're accused of forging can be found on page 86 of [0]. It basically just requires an authorized person to check a box that the item is in spec. [0] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:02012R0748-20140217&from=EN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE...
- junofan 3y ago
  Sounds like the organizations that AOG Technics claims are the OEMs [1] rather than repair shops. So that does point to the parts being fake. [1]: https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SafetyNotice2023004.pdf https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SafetyNotice2023004.pdf
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- fxtentacle 3y ago
  "For each part obtained, please contact the approved organisation identified on the ARC to verify the origin of the certificate." So yes, it appears that the issue is unreliable certification.
1letterunixname 3y ago
I guess most people forget the Ducommun scandal where dubious parts of unknown quality were shoved into 737 NG's on the assembly line. Numerous layers of the federal government, the parts on the side of the "strategic" interests and the MIC, came along and gaslit workers who knew better. The second link is a shining example of the revolving door. The 737 MAX lawsuit (1:19-CV-02170) was a travesty, a miscarriage, and purposeful deceit to rob individual victims' families of justice. Ralph Nader's niece's death was also swept up into that legal theater. https://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article2620683.html https://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article2620683... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun https://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2019cv02281/363323 https://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2019cv02...
theolivenbaum 3y ago
Here's the link to the EASA note on this: https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/aircraft-products/suspected-unapproved-parts/aircraft-parts-distributed-aog-technics https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/aircraft-products/susp... It seems like they're caught providing fake documents from one of their suppliers

44 points by quakeguy 3y ago

Fake seems like a misnomer. Improperly documented or unauthorized would be better. The form they're accused of forging can be found on page 86 of [0]. It basically just requires an authorized person to check a box that the item is in spec. [0] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:02012R0748-20140217&from=EN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE...

junofan 3y ago
Sounds like the organizations that AOG Technics claims are the OEMs [1] rather than repair shops. So that does point to the parts being fake. [1]: https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SafetyNotice2023004.pdf https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SafetyNotice2023004.pdf
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fxtentacle 3y ago
"For each part obtained, please contact the approved organisation identified on the ARC to verify the origin of the certificate." So yes, it appears that the issue is unreliable certification.

1letterunixname 3y ago

I guess most people forget the Ducommun scandal where dubious parts of unknown quality were shoved into 737 NG's on the assembly line. Numerous layers of the federal government, the parts on the side of the "strategic" interests and the MIC, came along and gaslit workers who knew better. The second link is a shining example of the revolving door. The 737 MAX lawsuit (1:19-CV-02170) was a travesty, a miscarriage, and purposeful deceit to rob individual victims' families of justice. Ralph Nader's niece's death was also swept up into that legal theater. https://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article2620683.html https://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article2620683... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun https://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2019cv02281/363323 https://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2019cv02...

theolivenbaum 3y ago

Here's the link to the EASA note on this: https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/aircraft-products/suspected-unapproved-parts/aircraft-parts-distributed-aog-technics https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/aircraft-products/susp... It seems like they're caught providing fake documents from one of their suppliers