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Kenton's House

195 points by jumploops 3y ago

ModernMech 3y ago
Holy cow this was my dream growing up. I had designs and everything. My last LAN party was in 2005, and I never got around to it as an adult as we all kind of went our separate ways. But I've still had the dream! Now, there are some things I would do differently here. To be a true LAN party, people need to bring their own rigs. That's half the fun. Providing the computers really defeats the purpose and makes it feel more like an internet cafe. The question I have is, are they all in one room? Seems like there might be two, so that's good. Because one of the things I really wanted to do was have two rooms, one for each team so there was no screen cheating. Because that kinda thing happened! The other plan I had was to have Bawls on tap. I don't know how that would have been possible, but that was baked into the design along with a soda fountain. We didn't do alcohol. But you know what, as I thought about it more, I realized that the ad hoc nature of the LAN party was the best part. Scrounging up a 16 port switch and putting it in the middle of the floor, duct taping down the cords. Balancing the loads between walls and the inevitable tripping of breakers when some extra guests show up. Accidentally unplugging a daisy chained surge protector and turning off someone's rig, prematurely ending a 12 hour session of Age of Empires. We still talk about that to this day. I miss LAN parties.
- pelalmqvist 3y ago
  > The house has twelve of these fold-out computer stations, six in each of two rooms (ideal for team vs. team games) He thought about it !
  - kentonv 3y ago
    Indeed, you might even notice in the pictures that one room has a wall painted blue and the other one reddish. When people asked which team to join the answer was: "What color is the wall?" :) That said, in practice we don't do a lot of competitive stuff. Instead we tend to prefer to focus on cooperative games, like Deep Rock Galactic, Ark, Factorio, etc. This works a lot better when everyone is somewhere between a casual vs. hardcore gamer with very different skill levels. The one thing we regularly do play versus is Left 4 Dead 2. I've gotten pretty good at assigning my friends to teams for that one such that the games end up reasonably balanced...
slowhadoken 3y ago
I tested League of Legends during its closed beta in a bar like this. It was a blast when bands played. It was cool playing after hours with employees from the block too.
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71a54xd 3y ago
I remember seeing this on Overclock.net back in the day! However, as an adult I just don't enjoy video games in the same way. Wish I had a SWE salary that could support a build-out like this!
- asadm 3y ago
  As someone with the SWE salary. It's not the salary, it's missing the friends to play with.
  - mrAssHat 3y ago
    And time too, unfortunately.
rendx 3y ago
I really wouldn't enjoy facing the wall like that. For me, at least half of the fun of a LAN party was direct interaction and visuals from other fellow humans! Also, where do people sleep? Since there is not sufficient space below the tables! I wouldn't want to leave so far from my machine! ;) And of course, it lost some of its appeal when we didn't have to carry around and set up CRTs any more.
- ModernMech 3y ago
  Sleep? At a LAN party? That's the fastest way to end up with a penis drawn on your forehead.
pwb25 3y ago
Honestly sounds quite lame. The whole thing with a LAN party is carrying your own computer and giant CRT screen and setting up cables all over
- bryanlarsen 3y ago
  Maybe for the person bringing the computer. In 1994 I picked up a dozen coax NE2000's and cables and terminators to facilitate LAN parties. So I was the guy plugging those cards into everybody's computers and setting up drivers. What a giant PITA. Those cards were cheap for a reason, there was a reason companies were dumping them en masse.
  - gunapologist99 3y ago
    10base2 faded out pretty quickly too.
- kentonv 3y ago
  Having done classic LAN parties for 15 years before building the house, I understand this feeling. That's why I specifically designed the house such that people could bring their own machines if they wanted. No one ever did. The only time people ever even busted out a laptop is if all the built-in machines were occupied. But often at that point the others would just hang out until a machine became available. The thing is, when you bring your own machine, you tend to have to spend time setting it up, installing games, updating drivers, etc. There's always that one person who has to reinstall Windows from scratch. I remember many LAN parties where we couldn't even get started until late at night. LAN parties had to be overnight affairs otherwise you couldn't get any gaming in. With my house, I had all the machines ready to go in advance. All identically configured, all games installed, just sit down and go. It turned out really great. We could get more done in a 12-hour LAN party than most 24-hour parties, and we could still go home and sleep in our beds. (I did still have an annual 48-hour party, though.) All this mean people were willing to do them on a monthly basis or more. Whereas in my teenage years 3-to-4 times a year was about all we could muster.
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bryanlarsen 3y ago
I notice that he started with Linux to create his copy-on-write disk setup and then switched to Windows 7. I wonder if/when he rebuilds it in Austin if he'll just use Linux, now that Proton has made Linux gaming more feasible.
- Farbklex 3y ago
  For LANs, Linux is just too much of a headache since a lot of games require Anti-Cheat that won't run in Linux. I did that a few times but as soon as someone wants to play Valorant, you're out.
  - kentonv 3y ago
    TBH we usually just turn off anti-cheat. No one at a LAN party is going to cheat against other LAN party participants. It's only an issue if we want to join an internet game but we usually don't really want to deal with internet people anyway.
    - dieantwoord 3y ago
      no one? ;-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EJXTh4HMAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EJXTh4HMAE
      - kentonv 3y ago
        Never really understood the appeal of that kind of LAN party TBH. Too many people, not enough socialization opportunity, might as well just play on the internet from home.
- kentonv 3y ago
  Indeed, Linux gaming is way more viable now than it was in 2011, and it almost worked in 2011, so it probably works OK now. I have friends who I game with regularly who only use Linux and do OK. That said I'm currently prioritizing Windows for the new house, because I know it works. Once that's all up and running I will experiment with Linux as well. Netbooting makes it easy to change OS on a whim. :) One reason Linux would be nicer is that I know how to use a local disk (on the client machine) to hold the copy-on-write overlay, so only the base image need be served over the network (read-only). I have no idea how to make Windows do such a thing (if it's even possible) so I end up having to do all the copy-on-write stuff server-side. If I could use a local disk then it'd be much less of a performance issue when people decide to install extra games during the party.
EvanAnderson 3y ago
I worked at a little shop that built PCs in the mid-90's. The owner liked to game and always made sure the office PCs were decent-enough gaming PCs so we could have LAN parties on the weekends. It was a ton of fun and made the office PCs very nice for daily office work.
timeimp 3y ago
I appeciate the Team Fortress 2 "Saxxy Awards" on that photo there. How much has changed since then.
sammy2255 3y ago
Kenton is my idle he basically made Google protobuf now he makes Cloudflare workers or something
- lostlogin 3y ago
  It’s never occurred to me until now - idle and idol are said the same.
  - klempner 3y ago
    That's somewhat dialect/accent dependent.
TheGRS 3y ago
When I was in high school going to LAN parties was my main social scene. I just loved it, even though it involved a lot of lugging around equipment to setup. We did private LANs at each others houses and we also went to larger events held at hotel conference rooms. And in those years I remember dreaming of building a place like this for myself if I ever suddenly had a lot of money. At the time I thought that was like a dream house for me, somewhere we could all gather and play computer games easily. Really neat to see that dream became someone's reality, and it doesn't even look all that complicated to put together (it even looks pretty nice!). I'll admit that in college I strayed away from the scene, I ended up just playing online much more often. I kind of miss it sometimes, but being 36 now its not something I have a lot of time for anymore, let alone gaming in the first place.
kentonv 3y ago
Oh this was my house. AMA Past discussion (way back in 2011): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 I sold this in 2020 when I moved to Austin. I'm building a bigger, better one here, which will be done... in about a month! (4.5 years since I first saw the property... phew.) I'll probably publish something about the new one ~next year. :) I published a guide and helper code for netbooting Windows machines from a single copy-on-write image here (currently in the process of updating it, it has unsurprisingly bitrotted a bit): https://github.com/kentonv/lanparty/ https://github.com/kentonv/lanparty/
- auveair 3y ago
  I really like this, it's such a fun idea and usually those never see the light of day so kudos for you to bring it to life, twice! Bringing your computer to a LAN was just annoying IMO. I was curious maybe if you had some thoughts on the more social aspects of the project? Did you feel it made it easier to hang out on a whim for example?
  - kentonv 3y ago
    For me, LAN parties were always primarily about the social aspect, not actually the gaming. The games are there to give people an excuse to get together and spend way more time in the same place than they'd normally want to. I'd definitely say it served the purpose. We didn't really do them on a whim, but once or twice a month on a regular schedule. It was also great for networking -- as in, people, not computers. Whenever I met someone new I'd invite them to a LAN party. People would bring their friends. Made some good connections that way. Hope to make more in Austin once the new house is ready...
    - jakebasile 3y ago
      Austin is a great town to be in and make connections. I've been here since 2011 and love it (except maybe the heat during some summers). I can guarantee you that you'll be able to start some conversations based on a cool house like this! Personally, LAN parties were something I always wanted to hold more of but just didn't have many friends playing on PC while I was growing up. It's cool you've made it into such a central component of your home!
xwdv 3y ago
I don’t think this is how I’d design a LAN party house. I think a large round table with monitors is a more social setup, and creates equal importance amongst all the people sitting around it. There would be space in the middle section of table behind the monitors for people to connect their own rigs or setup one of the house rigs. With the right circumference, you could see up to 4 other people from any specific seating position. I would also make the use of projectors to project live streams for different players in more social oriented areas of the house, where placing a TV would be impractical. Pretty cool though that a LAN party house exists at all.
- kentonv 3y ago
  Sounds like your design would require a much larger space than I had. The whole house was 1426 sqft, including two bedrooms and bathrooms (not shown in the photos). Having the stations fold into the walls kept space available for normal living when not having a party. That said I actually think a round table design would be less social. With monitors along the walls, you can easily turn around to socialize between games with nothing blocking you from seeing other people. With the table and monitors in the middle, I think monitors would block people from socializing across the table. We'll see though, the new house actually features both designs in different rooms... :)
  - xwdv 3y ago
    That’s not fair. If a person sitting at a wall can turn around to socialize, then I propose people sitting at a round table can just stand up and talk to each other in a circle.
    - hgsgm 3y ago
      Standing up is a lot more work.
  - hgsgm 3y ago
    Wow, the photo makes the house look much bigger.
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gaws 3y ago
Interesting backstory[1] on how Kenton found the space: > Housing in this area is ridiculously expensive, though, and even after four or five years I had trouble finding anything I could afford. There are no empty lots here, so I'd have to tear something down, and even a run-down house in a bad neighborhood costs $450k in this area. I didn't even bother looking in Palo Alto -- it was way out of my range. That is, until something really lucky happened. A commercial establishment bordering an older residential area of town had some extra land that they weren't using. In 2009, at the low point of the recession, they put this sliver of land up for sale. I was lucky enough to look at exactly the time they did this, and with the help of a loan I was able to pick it up for a price I could actually afford. [1]: http://kentonsprojects.blogspot.com/2011/12/lan-party-optimized-house.html http://kentonsprojects.blogspot.com/2011/12/lan-party-optimi...
barbs 3y ago
Awesome. I remember being mildly obsessed with LAN parties when I was at uni, about the same time this house was built. My friend was working (and living) in an old office for a boat warehouse, so there were plenty of desks, power outlets and sleeping space available. We'd bring our laptops and mostly play older games. Good times.
major505 3y ago
What I miss most about early 2000 during college where the lan parties. When I went first live alone I organized a party at my appartment. It had so many poeple that there was a guy sited in the toilet with the keyboard and mouse on his lap, and the monitor on the sink. The people favorites at the timeL: Quake 3 arena, CS1.6, and Duke Nuken 3d using Dukester to play in Lan
dang 3y ago
Related: Kenton's House - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36002756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36002756 - May 2023 (2 comments) Kenton's Weekend Projects: LAN-Party Optimized House - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 - Dec 2011 (24 comments)
andrewstuart 3y ago
Makes me a bit sad that I don't connect with this sort of thing anymore. Roll back 20 years and I could not have thought of anything better than a house designed for lan gaming, computing, movie watching. Somewhere along the line that faded away.
elromulous 3y ago
As soon as I saw the title, I thought to myself "I hope this is protobuf/capnproto Kenton!". Was not disappointed.
rsayers 3y ago
I got my own apartment while I was still in HS, my apartment become sort of a perpetual lan party. Friends would often just leave their machines setup at my place while they went to work or school. All machines were initially connected via coax ethernet, all sharing one 28.8 dialup connection. A house like this was basically the most amazing thing any of us could have imagined back then.

195 points by jumploops 3y ago

Holy cow this was my dream growing up. I had designs and everything. My last LAN party was in 2005, and I never got around to it as an adult as we all kind of went our separate ways. But I've still had the dream! Now, there are some things I would do differently here. To be a true LAN party, people need to bring their own rigs. That's half the fun. Providing the computers really defeats the purpose and makes it feel more like an internet cafe. The question I have is, are they all in one room? Seems like there might be two, so that's good. Because one of the things I really wanted to do was have two rooms, one for each team so there was no screen cheating. Because that kinda thing happened! The other plan I had was to have Bawls on tap. I don't know how that would have been possible, but that was baked into the design along with a soda fountain. We didn't do alcohol. But you know what, as I thought about it more, I realized that the ad hoc nature of the LAN party was the best part. Scrounging up a 16 port switch and putting it in the middle of the floor, duct taping down the cords. Balancing the loads between walls and the inevitable tripping of breakers when some extra guests show up. Accidentally unplugging a daisy chained surge protector and turning off someone's rig, prematurely ending a 12 hour session of Age of Empires. We still talk about that to this day. I miss LAN parties.

pelalmqvist 3y ago
> The house has twelve of these fold-out computer stations, six in each of two rooms (ideal for team vs. team games) He thought about it !
- kentonv 3y ago
  Indeed, you might even notice in the pictures that one room has a wall painted blue and the other one reddish. When people asked which team to join the answer was: "What color is the wall?" :) That said, in practice we don't do a lot of competitive stuff. Instead we tend to prefer to focus on cooperative games, like Deep Rock Galactic, Ark, Factorio, etc. This works a lot better when everyone is somewhere between a casual vs. hardcore gamer with very different skill levels. The one thing we regularly do play versus is Left 4 Dead 2. I've gotten pretty good at assigning my friends to teams for that one such that the games end up reasonably balanced...

slowhadoken 3y ago

I tested League of Legends during its closed beta in a bar like this. It was a blast when bands played. It was cool playing after hours with employees from the block too.

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71a54xd 3y ago

I remember seeing this on Overclock.net back in the day! However, as an adult I just don't enjoy video games in the same way. Wish I had a SWE salary that could support a build-out like this!

asadm 3y ago
As someone with the SWE salary. It's not the salary, it's missing the friends to play with.
- mrAssHat 3y ago
  And time too, unfortunately.

rendx 3y ago

I really wouldn't enjoy facing the wall like that. For me, at least half of the fun of a LAN party was direct interaction and visuals from other fellow humans! Also, where do people sleep? Since there is not sufficient space below the tables! I wouldn't want to leave so far from my machine! ;) And of course, it lost some of its appeal when we didn't have to carry around and set up CRTs any more.

ModernMech 3y ago
Sleep? At a LAN party? That's the fastest way to end up with a penis drawn on your forehead.

pwb25 3y ago

Honestly sounds quite lame. The whole thing with a LAN party is carrying your own computer and giant CRT screen and setting up cables all over

bryanlarsen 3y ago
Maybe for the person bringing the computer. In 1994 I picked up a dozen coax NE2000's and cables and terminators to facilitate LAN parties. So I was the guy plugging those cards into everybody's computers and setting up drivers. What a giant PITA. Those cards were cheap for a reason, there was a reason companies were dumping them en masse.
- gunapologist99 3y ago
  10base2 faded out pretty quickly too.
kentonv 3y ago
Having done classic LAN parties for 15 years before building the house, I understand this feeling. That's why I specifically designed the house such that people could bring their own machines if they wanted. No one ever did. The only time people ever even busted out a laptop is if all the built-in machines were occupied. But often at that point the others would just hang out until a machine became available. The thing is, when you bring your own machine, you tend to have to spend time setting it up, installing games, updating drivers, etc. There's always that one person who has to reinstall Windows from scratch. I remember many LAN parties where we couldn't even get started until late at night. LAN parties had to be overnight affairs otherwise you couldn't get any gaming in. With my house, I had all the machines ready to go in advance. All identically configured, all games installed, just sit down and go. It turned out really great. We could get more done in a 12-hour LAN party than most 24-hour parties, and we could still go home and sleep in our beds. (I did still have an annual 48-hour party, though.) All this mean people were willing to do them on a monthly basis or more. Whereas in my teenage years 3-to-4 times a year was about all we could muster.
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bryanlarsen 3y ago

I notice that he started with Linux to create his copy-on-write disk setup and then switched to Windows 7. I wonder if/when he rebuilds it in Austin if he'll just use Linux, now that Proton has made Linux gaming more feasible.

Farbklex 3y ago
For LANs, Linux is just too much of a headache since a lot of games require Anti-Cheat that won't run in Linux. I did that a few times but as soon as someone wants to play Valorant, you're out.
- kentonv 3y ago
  TBH we usually just turn off anti-cheat. No one at a LAN party is going to cheat against other LAN party participants. It's only an issue if we want to join an internet game but we usually don't really want to deal with internet people anyway.
  - dieantwoord 3y ago
    no one? ;-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EJXTh4HMAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EJXTh4HMAE
    - kentonv 3y ago
      Never really understood the appeal of that kind of LAN party TBH. Too many people, not enough socialization opportunity, might as well just play on the internet from home.
kentonv 3y ago
Indeed, Linux gaming is way more viable now than it was in 2011, and it almost worked in 2011, so it probably works OK now. I have friends who I game with regularly who only use Linux and do OK. That said I'm currently prioritizing Windows for the new house, because I know it works. Once that's all up and running I will experiment with Linux as well. Netbooting makes it easy to change OS on a whim. :) One reason Linux would be nicer is that I know how to use a local disk (on the client machine) to hold the copy-on-write overlay, so only the base image need be served over the network (read-only). I have no idea how to make Windows do such a thing (if it's even possible) so I end up having to do all the copy-on-write stuff server-side. If I could use a local disk then it'd be much less of a performance issue when people decide to install extra games during the party.

EvanAnderson 3y ago

I worked at a little shop that built PCs in the mid-90's. The owner liked to game and always made sure the office PCs were decent-enough gaming PCs so we could have LAN parties on the weekends. It was a ton of fun and made the office PCs very nice for daily office work.

timeimp 3y ago

I appeciate the Team Fortress 2 "Saxxy Awards" on that photo there. How much has changed since then.

sammy2255 3y ago

Kenton is my idle he basically made Google protobuf now he makes Cloudflare workers or something

lostlogin 3y ago
It’s never occurred to me until now - idle and idol are said the same.
- klempner 3y ago
  That's somewhat dialect/accent dependent.

TheGRS 3y ago

When I was in high school going to LAN parties was my main social scene. I just loved it, even though it involved a lot of lugging around equipment to setup. We did private LANs at each others houses and we also went to larger events held at hotel conference rooms. And in those years I remember dreaming of building a place like this for myself if I ever suddenly had a lot of money. At the time I thought that was like a dream house for me, somewhere we could all gather and play computer games easily. Really neat to see that dream became someone's reality, and it doesn't even look all that complicated to put together (it even looks pretty nice!). I'll admit that in college I strayed away from the scene, I ended up just playing online much more often. I kind of miss it sometimes, but being 36 now its not something I have a lot of time for anymore, let alone gaming in the first place.

kentonv 3y ago

Oh this was my house. AMA Past discussion (way back in 2011): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 I sold this in 2020 when I moved to Austin. I'm building a bigger, better one here, which will be done... in about a month! (4.5 years since I first saw the property... phew.) I'll probably publish something about the new one ~next year. :) I published a guide and helper code for netbooting Windows machines from a single copy-on-write image here (currently in the process of updating it, it has unsurprisingly bitrotted a bit): https://github.com/kentonv/lanparty/ https://github.com/kentonv/lanparty/

auveair 3y ago
I really like this, it's such a fun idea and usually those never see the light of day so kudos for you to bring it to life, twice! Bringing your computer to a LAN was just annoying IMO. I was curious maybe if you had some thoughts on the more social aspects of the project? Did you feel it made it easier to hang out on a whim for example?
- kentonv 3y ago
  For me, LAN parties were always primarily about the social aspect, not actually the gaming. The games are there to give people an excuse to get together and spend way more time in the same place than they'd normally want to. I'd definitely say it served the purpose. We didn't really do them on a whim, but once or twice a month on a regular schedule. It was also great for networking -- as in, people, not computers. Whenever I met someone new I'd invite them to a LAN party. People would bring their friends. Made some good connections that way. Hope to make more in Austin once the new house is ready...
  - jakebasile 3y ago
    Austin is a great town to be in and make connections. I've been here since 2011 and love it (except maybe the heat during some summers). I can guarantee you that you'll be able to start some conversations based on a cool house like this! Personally, LAN parties were something I always wanted to hold more of but just didn't have many friends playing on PC while I was growing up. It's cool you've made it into such a central component of your home!

xwdv 3y ago

I don’t think this is how I’d design a LAN party house. I think a large round table with monitors is a more social setup, and creates equal importance amongst all the people sitting around it. There would be space in the middle section of table behind the monitors for people to connect their own rigs or setup one of the house rigs. With the right circumference, you could see up to 4 other people from any specific seating position. I would also make the use of projectors to project live streams for different players in more social oriented areas of the house, where placing a TV would be impractical. Pretty cool though that a LAN party house exists at all.

kentonv 3y ago
Sounds like your design would require a much larger space than I had. The whole house was 1426 sqft, including two bedrooms and bathrooms (not shown in the photos). Having the stations fold into the walls kept space available for normal living when not having a party. That said I actually think a round table design would be less social. With monitors along the walls, you can easily turn around to socialize between games with nothing blocking you from seeing other people. With the table and monitors in the middle, I think monitors would block people from socializing across the table. We'll see though, the new house actually features both designs in different rooms... :)
- xwdv 3y ago
  That’s not fair. If a person sitting at a wall can turn around to socialize, then I propose people sitting at a round table can just stand up and talk to each other in a circle.
  - hgsgm 3y ago
    Standing up is a lot more work.
- hgsgm 3y ago
  Wow, the photo makes the house look much bigger.
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gaws 3y ago

Interesting backstory[1] on how Kenton found the space: > Housing in this area is ridiculously expensive, though, and even after four or five years I had trouble finding anything I could afford. There are no empty lots here, so I'd have to tear something down, and even a run-down house in a bad neighborhood costs $450k in this area. I didn't even bother looking in Palo Alto -- it was way out of my range. That is, until something really lucky happened. A commercial establishment bordering an older residential area of town had some extra land that they weren't using. In 2009, at the low point of the recession, they put this sliver of land up for sale. I was lucky enough to look at exactly the time they did this, and with the help of a loan I was able to pick it up for a price I could actually afford. [1]: http://kentonsprojects.blogspot.com/2011/12/lan-party-optimized-house.html http://kentonsprojects.blogspot.com/2011/12/lan-party-optimi...

barbs 3y ago

Awesome. I remember being mildly obsessed with LAN parties when I was at uni, about the same time this house was built. My friend was working (and living) in an old office for a boat warehouse, so there were plenty of desks, power outlets and sleeping space available. We'd bring our laptops and mostly play older games. Good times.

major505 3y ago

What I miss most about early 2000 during college where the lan parties. When I went first live alone I organized a party at my appartment. It had so many poeple that there was a guy sited in the toilet with the keyboard and mouse on his lap, and the monitor on the sink. The people favorites at the timeL: Quake 3 arena, CS1.6, and Duke Nuken 3d using Dukester to play in Lan

dang 3y ago

Related: Kenton's House - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36002756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36002756 - May 2023 (2 comments) Kenton's Weekend Projects: LAN-Party Optimized House - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342044 - Dec 2011 (24 comments)

andrewstuart 3y ago

Makes me a bit sad that I don't connect with this sort of thing anymore. Roll back 20 years and I could not have thought of anything better than a house designed for lan gaming, computing, movie watching. Somewhere along the line that faded away.

elromulous 3y ago

As soon as I saw the title, I thought to myself "I hope this is protobuf/capnproto Kenton!". Was not disappointed.

rsayers 3y ago

I got my own apartment while I was still in HS, my apartment become sort of a perpetual lan party. Friends would often just leave their machines setup at my place while they went to work or school. All machines were initially connected via coax ethernet, all sharing one 28.8 dialup connection. A house like this was basically the most amazing thing any of us could have imagined back then.