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>And no coffee shop these days wants to use your cup because they're worried about whether it's clean and they don't want to touch any of their coffee making to

>And no coffee shop these days wants to use your cup because they're worried about whether it's clean and they don't want to touch any of their coffee making tools to your cup accidentally and contaminate them. Not true everywhere. Where I live now in EU, at my fav hipster coffeeshop they definitely let you bring your own to-go reusable glassware (basically jars with screw-on caps) where they pour your finished coffee drink, and I think in some hipster Berlin coffee shops as well where they push for the environmentalist friendly mentality. I've noticed in some cases America(the US) tends to be way more hypochondriac than necessary, for some reason. Probably because how easy you can get sued.

apsurd 3y ago
U.S. is very litigious. In high school I dreamed of being an entrepreneur. I still have that dream it's just wow the reality of the cost of doing business is brutal and disenchanting.
- Aurornis 3y ago
  I’m sorry to say that if the mere possibility of a lawsuit is stopping someone from pursuing a dream, they weren’t that serious about it. Either that, or they’re greatly exaggerating the threat of lawsuits in their mind. It’s not just a United States problem. I’ve worked with several startups in the EU and other countries where founders were jealous of our business freedoms in the United States. The very idea that you can start a business, have it fail, and not be financially ruined for decades or the rest of your life in the United States is a foreign concept to many. We have it good in the US.
  - apsurd 3y ago
    Oh, I meant that the cost of business includes all the overhead of compliance, insurance, and legal retainers. I'm not exactly complaining. I'm still trying to start a business :P. It's just the purity of "making a better product" is gone. You have to do it within the law and compete with incumbent that have influenced that law in their favor after having maybe broken it at first. I'n not completely cynical. Just disenchanted! Pedantic edit: "we have it better in the U.S" means it's worse elsewhere, not that the U.S. is "good". Just saying. I do agree that the possibility of even starting business is very good in the U.S. aside: I hang out at local spots a lot. On a regular cadence the owners mention they're being sued for ADA (Am. disabilities Act) violations. The law is good. But the thing is the law firms spray the notices to spook people into settling. It's just the cost of doing business. Even and especially the cognitive-drain cost.
- etothepii 3y ago
  This is what a limited liability company is for.
Aurornis 3y ago
> I've noticed America tends to be way more hypochondriac than average for some reason That’s funny, I had the opposite impression after my various EU business trips over the years. Our colleagues were shocked that we could just touch the fruit and vegetables at a store without gloves. We were surprised to go to stores there and see fruits individually wrapped in unnecessary packaging.
- SahAssar 3y ago
  Where in the EU was this? I don't think I've seen individually wrapped fruits be the standard for any of the 5-10 european countries I've been to (or the one I'm living in). Certain things are wrapped (primarily cucumbers and similar), but that is just for more perishable things shipped in from the other side of the world and is for shelf life, not hygenics.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >That’s funny, I had the opposite impression after my various EU business trips over the years. Depends where. I've noticed certain Scandinavian countries like Finland take public hygiene to the next level, but in central Europe like France, Germany, Austria, Czechia, etc. it's more socially accepted to casually share germs and not shower too often.

apsurd 3y ago

U.S. is very litigious. In high school I dreamed of being an entrepreneur. I still have that dream it's just wow the reality of the cost of doing business is brutal and disenchanting.

Aurornis 3y ago
I’m sorry to say that if the mere possibility of a lawsuit is stopping someone from pursuing a dream, they weren’t that serious about it. Either that, or they’re greatly exaggerating the threat of lawsuits in their mind. It’s not just a United States problem. I’ve worked with several startups in the EU and other countries where founders were jealous of our business freedoms in the United States. The very idea that you can start a business, have it fail, and not be financially ruined for decades or the rest of your life in the United States is a foreign concept to many. We have it good in the US.
- apsurd 3y ago
  Oh, I meant that the cost of business includes all the overhead of compliance, insurance, and legal retainers. I'm not exactly complaining. I'm still trying to start a business :P. It's just the purity of "making a better product" is gone. You have to do it within the law and compete with incumbent that have influenced that law in their favor after having maybe broken it at first. I'n not completely cynical. Just disenchanted! Pedantic edit: "we have it better in the U.S" means it's worse elsewhere, not that the U.S. is "good". Just saying. I do agree that the possibility of even starting business is very good in the U.S. aside: I hang out at local spots a lot. On a regular cadence the owners mention they're being sued for ADA (Am. disabilities Act) violations. The law is good. But the thing is the law firms spray the notices to spook people into settling. It's just the cost of doing business. Even and especially the cognitive-drain cost.
etothepii 3y ago
This is what a limited liability company is for.

Aurornis 3y ago

> I've noticed America tends to be way more hypochondriac than average for some reason That’s funny, I had the opposite impression after my various EU business trips over the years. Our colleagues were shocked that we could just touch the fruit and vegetables at a store without gloves. We were surprised to go to stores there and see fruits individually wrapped in unnecessary packaging.

SahAssar 3y ago
Where in the EU was this? I don't think I've seen individually wrapped fruits be the standard for any of the 5-10 european countries I've been to (or the one I'm living in). Certain things are wrapped (primarily cucumbers and similar), but that is just for more perishable things shipped in from the other side of the world and is for shelf life, not hygenics.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>That’s funny, I had the opposite impression after my various EU business trips over the years. Depends where. I've noticed certain Scandinavian countries like Finland take public hygiene to the next level, but in central Europe like France, Germany, Austria, Czechia, etc. it's more socially accepted to casually share germs and not shower too often.