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You bring cash. Russian cards are useless* abroad. People who travel or shop online often, or have to receive payments from abroad, have all got themselves acc
by grishka 3y ago
You bring cash. Russian cards are useless* abroad.
People who travel or shop online often, or have to receive payments from abroad, have all got themselves accounts and cards in foreign banks. I did, too. In some countries (Kazakhstan, Georgia, Indonesia, Turkey) some banks would open an account and issue a card for you even if you're not a resident.
* except several "friendly" countries that still accept Mir cards, like Armenia. Russian Visa and MC are truly useless abroad though.
- sgt 3y agoThat's crazy. It basically cuts off Russian tourism.
- grishka 3y ago[flagged]
- l33t7332273 3y agoThe point was to punish Russia and harm its economy. It’s working.
- grishka 3y ago> punish Russia The government or the people?
- l33t7332273 3y agoThe country.
- grishka 3y agoYou can't lump the people and the government together like that.
- l33t7332273 3y agoWhy not? That’s what a country is.
- kyboren 3y agoThe Western electorate is indifferent about you. But it's only fair, because you are indifferent--at best--about them. If there were a strong domestic Russian opposition movement there would be much more sympathy. But the Russian population has been successfully depoliticized. Those who care are dead, imprisoned, emigrated, internally-exiled, or live as serfs bound to a genocidal Tsar. Oh well. Bummer, bro. The financial sanctions are not about you. They're about constraining the resources of a genocidal mafia regime waging direct war against its neighbors and hybrid war against "The Collective West(tm)". With that in mind, a far better argument in favor of loosening sanctions to allow Russians to spend abroad is that those foreign currency outflows will put further pressure on the ruble and Russia's limited forex liquidity. Bitching about sanctions is ultimately pointless, though, as CBR would almost certainly restrict foreign payments on their own even if sanctions weren't in place, exactly because of those financial constraints. Ultimately your payments problem boils down to Russia wasting all its resources and potential on a genocidal war of imperial aggression and that is what you should spend all your energy to address.
- sgt 3y agoI'm definitely pro Ukraine, but Grishka also has a point here. I think it's well worth it to take a few steps back and consider that the war was indeed somewhat provoked by NATO (although I am truly a NATO supporter, let's not convince ourselves that they are completely innocent all the time). Putin won't be in charge forever, and they can stop the war literally right now by ceding some territory to Russia. After which NATO membership can be given to Ukraine. No more sanctions for our Russian HN members.
- grishka 3y agoI just want to clarify — I do oppose this war and this government. The only point I'm making here is that some of the sanctions disproportionately affect regular people who have no say in the matter (the government doesn't take any feedback and trying to protest anyway gets you jailed) and are bypassed easily given enough will and resources. Some other sanctions, especially the personal ones against the government elites, do have the intended effect of forcing those people to fully immerse themselves into the country they themselves have built over the decades. The problem I see is that there's no process going on to evaluate whether each particular sanction has its intended effect, and repeal those that clearly don't.