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> it has little infrastructure for cyclists Singapore has over 500km of cycle ways: https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/getting_around/active_mobility/wal

> it has little infrastructure for cyclists Singapore has over 500km of cycle ways: https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/getting_around/active_mobility/walking_cycling_infrastructure/cycling.html https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/getting_around/acti... What are you comparing it to when you say "little infrastructure for cyclists"? You need to be very clear about who is the competition here worldwide because they are aiming for 1300km of cycleways by 2030 and this is a tiny city state 50km wide.

delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
> You need to be very clear about who is the competition here worldwide Since Singapore likes to set extremely high standards for itself, its competition is places like Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Cambridge, etc. Admittedly the parent commenter mentioned 'infrastructure', which Singapore has a bit of, but there's more to cycling than just pathways laid across the ground and painted with bicycle motifs. For Singapore to be truly a 'good place for cycling', it's got to have the right mindset for cycling. This means giving less priority to motor vehicles. Singapore ought to narrow its roads. There are too many non-highway stroads, and there is no reason for a semi-residential road to be 3+ lanes wide in each direction—look at any number of the Avenues in Toa Payoh, Ang Mo Kio, Bishan, Serangoon, Queenstown, Bukit Batok, Bedok, etc etc. Cars can easily reach 70+ km/h on these roads, which also makes it very unsafe for cyclists and pedestrians. The extra space from getting rid of these lanes could instead be used for much wider footpaths and grade-separated cycle lanes. Pedestrianise the city centre and residential cores. This is related to the point above, but some roads (e.g. in the CBD) could be completely blocked from vehicle access altogether. Consider using trams in the CBD instead of buses and trains. Improve bike-parking infrastructure. There are a handful of bike-parking spaces around MRT stations, but very few in other common areas like parks, HDB void decks, hawker centres, etc. Again, refer to the cities above for examples of how dense bike parking could possibly be. Bring back park-and-rides. Singapore used to have them, but ditched them in favour of directly linking the heartlands into the city, which have made MRTs packed. Incentivise bicycle ownerships: vouchers for bike shops, cycle-buying schemes, and of course, a bicycle licensing scheme similar to e-scooters and e-bikes (and cars). There's a lot more, but these are the lowest hanging fruits.
JimDabell 3y ago
To be fair, there are very few dedicated cycle lanes in the sense other countries have them. The CPN is basically just a line on a wide PCN path that pedestrians mostly ignore. It, along with with the PCN, is genuinely really fantastic for getting around by bike for the average person. However if you are a cyclist who takes their sport seriously, or somebody who commutes a decent distance by bike, you will be fairly limited because there’s usually plenty of pedestrians and a speed limit of 25km/h. And honestly, I don’t really fancy cycling on the roads in Singapore because the drivers aren’t used to dealing with cyclists. So I understand why somebody might say there’s little infrastructure for cyclists. Personally I cycle a fair amount and think Singapore is great for it, but I don’t go particularly fast and I do frequently have to slow down and weave my way past pedestrians anyway.

delta_p_delta_x 3y ago

> You need to be very clear about who is the competition here worldwide Since Singapore likes to set extremely high standards for itself, its competition is places like Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Cambridge, etc. Admittedly the parent commenter mentioned 'infrastructure', which Singapore has a bit of, but there's more to cycling than just pathways laid across the ground and painted with bicycle motifs. For Singapore to be truly a 'good place for cycling', it's got to have the right mindset for cycling. This means giving less priority to motor vehicles. Singapore ought to narrow its roads. There are too many non-highway stroads, and there is no reason for a semi-residential road to be 3+ lanes wide in each direction—look at any number of the Avenues in Toa Payoh, Ang Mo Kio, Bishan, Serangoon, Queenstown, Bukit Batok, Bedok, etc etc. Cars can easily reach 70+ km/h on these roads, which also makes it very unsafe for cyclists and pedestrians. The extra space from getting rid of these lanes could instead be used for much wider footpaths and grade-separated cycle lanes. Pedestrianise the city centre and residential cores. This is related to the point above, but some roads (e.g. in the CBD) could be completely blocked from vehicle access altogether. Consider using trams in the CBD instead of buses and trains. Improve bike-parking infrastructure. There are a handful of bike-parking spaces around MRT stations, but very few in other common areas like parks, HDB void decks, hawker centres, etc. Again, refer to the cities above for examples of how dense bike parking could possibly be. Bring back park-and-rides. Singapore used to have them, but ditched them in favour of directly linking the heartlands into the city, which have made MRTs packed. Incentivise bicycle ownerships: vouchers for bike shops, cycle-buying schemes, and of course, a bicycle licensing scheme similar to e-scooters and e-bikes (and cars). There's a lot more, but these are the lowest hanging fruits.

JimDabell 3y ago

To be fair, there are very few dedicated cycle lanes in the sense other countries have them. The CPN is basically just a line on a wide PCN path that pedestrians mostly ignore. It, along with with the PCN, is genuinely really fantastic for getting around by bike for the average person. However if you are a cyclist who takes their sport seriously, or somebody who commutes a decent distance by bike, you will be fairly limited because there’s usually plenty of pedestrians and a speed limit of 25km/h. And honestly, I don’t really fancy cycling on the roads in Singapore because the drivers aren’t used to dealing with cyclists. So I understand why somebody might say there’s little infrastructure for cyclists. Personally I cycle a fair amount and think Singapore is great for it, but I don’t go particularly fast and I do frequently have to slow down and weave my way past pedestrians anyway.