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A hammer isn’t a factory. There is a distinction, unless you don’t think industrialization had any effect on society.
by enterprise_cog 3y ago
A hammer isn’t a factory. There is a distinction, unless you don’t think industrialization had any effect on society.
- Retric 3y agoThe rhetoric around the means of production was initially in reference to slaves. Communism was an offshoot of the abolition movement not in reference to at the time minimal number of factories. And in that context people did abandon slavery. Even today factories aren’t the means of production, they don’t make houses that’s mostly people with hand tools. Nor do they make food or mine resources etc.
- enterprise_cog 3y agoWhat point are you trying to make here? Marx’s writings were based on his observations of factories and industry in England at the time, among other things.
- Retric 3y agoIt just annoys me that people don’t understand the philosophy they expose. Marx was not the origin of Communism or the phrasing around means of production. The context for his writing wasn’t simply factory conditions being so bad he created an original ideology from whole cloth. Which is why he was credited with the Marxism not Communism.
- enterprise_cog 3y agoThis entire thread was in response to police stealing in the US, and someone responded referencing communists. Given they context, they were clearly talking about Marxism. The guy you responded to explicitly mentioned that. And then you go off on some other interpretation of the same words, clearly misinterpreting what they posted to argue some other point.
- Retric 3y agoAssuming someone misspoke to support your point is a bit much.