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What don't you like about online gaming?

yumraj 3y ago
I made a rule. Bought most games I was asked for, was never pushed back for online gaming. So it worked. If there had been much push back for a game, I would have dug deeper. At the very least, conversations can be rather profanity laden and so can be the user names.
Hayvok 3y ago
Behavior from fellow players can range from day-brightening to absolutely appalling. Not taking the risk. Even in multiplayer games without chat/audio, the other players will find creative ways to exhibit behaviors I find intolerable for my kids.
balaji1 3y ago
might be obvious - online games much more tempting than offline single player games. I have not played single player games in decade+ but have played several days the latest multiplayer games. Does it mean online games are more addictive for kids or affect them worse than offline games? probably not. But I have observed (many) kids who can power thru single player games tend to be more unyielding on other tasks.
autoexec 3y ago
Online gaming is often a cesspool of DLC, anxiety inducing artificial time constraints designed to give kids FOMO, lootboxes and other forms of gambling targeting children and a constant stream of advertising that isn't seen to anywhere near the same extent in offline/single player titles. Roblox, minecraft, and Fortnite being prime examples.
- JauntyHatAngle 3y ago
  Minecraft Java edition isn't really that though. Roblox is in a class of its own compared to fortnite and minecraft in terms of toxic monetisation. Online gaming is definitely a tough one to navigate though, regardless. I had no problems as subscription was the limit to paying when I was a kid, but now it's a generation raised with mtx.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    I'm glad the the Java edition still has none of that. The last time I got the urge to download it they required an account to even get the installer and I feared the worst. It looks like that might no longer be the case... I may give it a try again and kill some time
    - lhoff 3y ago
      You do still need an account but (Microsoft Account) but the game itself has no DLCs, no lootboxes and the likes.
- Prickle 3y ago
  Minecraft is definitely without a doubt, not any of those things. It is first and foremost a single player game that can be modded extensively. I have found that multiplayer always comes second at best. Servers can be bad, but that is entirely optional. Not even close to Roblox or Fortnite. This is coming from a person that basically grew up with it from the Alpha stage.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    > Minecraft is definitely without a doubt, not any of those things. It's certainly some of those things! DLC tied to 3rd party IP (bonus advertising!): https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/batman-dlc-swoops-minecraft https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/batman-dlc-swoops-mi... https://www.eurogamer.net/dungeons-dragons-dlc-heading-to-minecraft-with-10-hour-campaign https://www.eurogamer.net/dungeons-dragons-dlc-heading-to-mi... Limited time events with exclusive content to make kids feel like shit if they don't/can't login at certain dates/times: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/discover-summer-celebration https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/discover-summer-cele... https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/star-wars-celebration-2023 https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/star-wars-celebratio... In-game ads: https://www.adventurize.com/ https://www.adventurize.com/ https://www.blockchaingamer.biz/news/16967/relentlo-brings-in-game-ads-by-partnering-with-fortnite-roblox-minecraft-creators/ https://www.blockchaingamer.biz/news/16967/relentlo-brings-i... It's unclear to me if any of their events or DLC includes loot boxes (mere chances to acquire certain content) or not. if they haven't done that, I give them credit I'm also not sure how much direct advertising Microsoft does in-game. Have they worked with ad companies like this to promote third party or non-game content? https://www.adweek.com/creativity/minecraft-built-a-colossal-machine-inside-the-game-to-advertise-a-special-new-update/ https://www.adweek.com/creativity/minecraft-built-a-colossal... I'm sure it's not as bad as Roblox or Fortnite but Microsoft does not have clean hands here either.
    - nottorp 3y ago
      But that's not Minecraft. That's MS's shitty non cross platform port. You want to give the kids Java edition which has none of this crap.
- alex_lav 3y ago
  This reads like a person that's never really looked at or played a game.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    There's a good chance I've been gaming for longer than you've been alive.
    - alex_lav 3y ago
      (Probably untrue but) Neat. Doesn't really change the content or validity of my post though. It reads like a person that's never looked at or played a video game.
      - autoexec 3y ago
        I guess it's unclear what you mean. The problems I mentioned are things I've seen many other gamers express concerns about, especially gamers with kids. It's not only exploitative, but these things make the games themselves worse as well.
      - nottorp 3y ago
        They said online gaming. It's a pretty accurate description of the free to play space. Buy your kids pay once games with no IAPs. Teach them to keep a wish list and wait for sales :)
        alex_lav 3y ago
        Online gaming and f2p aren’t the same thing…
        nottorp 3y ago
        Even WoW has IAPs now don't they? The moment you put even one IAP in you -ck up the design to incentivise people to buy it...

I made a rule. Bought most games I was asked for, was never pushed back for online gaming. So it worked. If there had been much push back for a game, I would have dug deeper. At the very least, conversations can be rather profanity laden and so can be the user names.

Hayvok 3y ago

Behavior from fellow players can range from day-brightening to absolutely appalling. Not taking the risk. Even in multiplayer games without chat/audio, the other players will find creative ways to exhibit behaviors I find intolerable for my kids.

balaji1 3y ago

might be obvious - online games much more tempting than offline single player games. I have not played single player games in decade+ but have played several days the latest multiplayer games. Does it mean online games are more addictive for kids or affect them worse than offline games? probably not. But I have observed (many) kids who can power thru single player games tend to be more unyielding on other tasks.

autoexec 3y ago

Online gaming is often a cesspool of DLC, anxiety inducing artificial time constraints designed to give kids FOMO, lootboxes and other forms of gambling targeting children and a constant stream of advertising that isn't seen to anywhere near the same extent in offline/single player titles. Roblox, minecraft, and Fortnite being prime examples.

JauntyHatAngle 3y ago
Minecraft Java edition isn't really that though. Roblox is in a class of its own compared to fortnite and minecraft in terms of toxic monetisation. Online gaming is definitely a tough one to navigate though, regardless. I had no problems as subscription was the limit to paying when I was a kid, but now it's a generation raised with mtx.
- autoexec 3y ago
  I'm glad the the Java edition still has none of that. The last time I got the urge to download it they required an account to even get the installer and I feared the worst. It looks like that might no longer be the case... I may give it a try again and kill some time
  - lhoff 3y ago
    You do still need an account but (Microsoft Account) but the game itself has no DLCs, no lootboxes and the likes.
Prickle 3y ago
Minecraft is definitely without a doubt, not any of those things. It is first and foremost a single player game that can be modded extensively. I have found that multiplayer always comes second at best. Servers can be bad, but that is entirely optional. Not even close to Roblox or Fortnite. This is coming from a person that basically grew up with it from the Alpha stage.
- autoexec 3y ago
  > Minecraft is definitely without a doubt, not any of those things. It's certainly some of those things! DLC tied to 3rd party IP (bonus advertising!): https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/batman-dlc-swoops-minecraft https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/batman-dlc-swoops-mi... https://www.eurogamer.net/dungeons-dragons-dlc-heading-to-minecraft-with-10-hour-campaign https://www.eurogamer.net/dungeons-dragons-dlc-heading-to-mi... Limited time events with exclusive content to make kids feel like shit if they don't/can't login at certain dates/times: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/discover-summer-celebration https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/discover-summer-cele... https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/star-wars-celebration-2023 https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/star-wars-celebratio... In-game ads: https://www.adventurize.com/ https://www.adventurize.com/ https://www.blockchaingamer.biz/news/16967/relentlo-brings-in-game-ads-by-partnering-with-fortnite-roblox-minecraft-creators/ https://www.blockchaingamer.biz/news/16967/relentlo-brings-i... It's unclear to me if any of their events or DLC includes loot boxes (mere chances to acquire certain content) or not. if they haven't done that, I give them credit I'm also not sure how much direct advertising Microsoft does in-game. Have they worked with ad companies like this to promote third party or non-game content? https://www.adweek.com/creativity/minecraft-built-a-colossal-machine-inside-the-game-to-advertise-a-special-new-update/ https://www.adweek.com/creativity/minecraft-built-a-colossal... I'm sure it's not as bad as Roblox or Fortnite but Microsoft does not have clean hands here either.
  - nottorp 3y ago
    But that's not Minecraft. That's MS's shitty non cross platform port. You want to give the kids Java edition which has none of this crap.
alex_lav 3y ago
This reads like a person that's never really looked at or played a game.
- autoexec 3y ago
  There's a good chance I've been gaming for longer than you've been alive.
  - alex_lav 3y ago
    (Probably untrue but) Neat. Doesn't really change the content or validity of my post though. It reads like a person that's never looked at or played a video game.
    - autoexec 3y ago
      I guess it's unclear what you mean. The problems I mentioned are things I've seen many other gamers express concerns about, especially gamers with kids. It's not only exploitative, but these things make the games themselves worse as well.
    - nottorp 3y ago
      They said online gaming. It's a pretty accurate description of the free to play space. Buy your kids pay once games with no IAPs. Teach them to keep a wish list and wait for sales :)
      - alex_lav 3y ago
        Online gaming and f2p aren’t the same thing…
        nottorp 3y ago
        Even WoW has IAPs now don't they? The moment you put even one IAP in you -ck up the design to incentivise people to buy it...