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Are you kidding me? The moment this country outlaws misinformation I am gone. You've made quite the leap and I don't think it is helpful. Also, the guns are the

Are you kidding me? The moment this country outlaws misinformation I am gone. You've made quite the leap and I don't think it is helpful. Also, the guns are the way they typically kill people and that is definitely nothing to scoff at.

SenAnder 3y ago
I'm from Europe, and there are a number of laws against misinformation and hate-speech already [0,1,2,3,4]. Notably, Scotland bans hate speech in private homes too [5,6]. Free speech protections in the rest of the world are even worse, China and Russia the usual examples. As hallowed as the 1st amendment is, it's dangerous to rely solely on legal protections, especially as public sentiment has started to turn against free speech in the US as well [7,8,9]. Ignoring misinformation and hate speech, what will happen when employment contracts or terms of use start to further limit our behavior? While it has a good record on free speech, the US has a disturbing trend of treating contracts as sacrosanct. [0] https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/13/now-the-police-are-arresting-12-year-olds-for-hate-speech/ https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/13/now-the-police-are-... [1] https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094485542/eu-law-big-tech-hate-speech-disinformation https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094485542/eu-law-big-tech-ha... [2] https://www.legaldive.com/news/digital-services-act-dsa-eu-misinformation-law-propaganda-compliance-facebook-gdpr/691657/ https://www.legaldive.com/news/digital-services-act-dsa-eu-m... [3] https://thebulletin.org/premium/2021-05/countries-have-more-than-100-laws-on-the-books-to-combat-misinformation-how-well-do-they-work/ https://thebulletin.org/premium/2021-05/countries-have-more-... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country [5] https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1352957/snp-news-scotland-hate-crime-law-humza-yousaf-holyrood-latest-nicola-sturgeon https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1352957/snp-news-sco... [6] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56364821 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-563... [7] https://www.thefire.org/news/new-survey-reveals-americans-attitudes-campus-free-speech https://www.thefire.org/news/new-survey-reveals-americans-at... [8] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/06/most-americans-support-freedom-speech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/06/most-amer... [9] https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/05/20/hate-speech https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...
- birdyrooster 3y ago
  Right so you don't know what it's like to live in a dystopian society where guns are everywhere and some are itching to use their weapon consciously or otherwise.

SenAnder 3y ago

I'm from Europe, and there are a number of laws against misinformation and hate-speech already [0,1,2,3,4]. Notably, Scotland bans hate speech in private homes too [5,6]. Free speech protections in the rest of the world are even worse, China and Russia the usual examples. As hallowed as the 1st amendment is, it's dangerous to rely solely on legal protections, especially as public sentiment has started to turn against free speech in the US as well [7,8,9]. Ignoring misinformation and hate speech, what will happen when employment contracts or terms of use start to further limit our behavior? While it has a good record on free speech, the US has a disturbing trend of treating contracts as sacrosanct. [0] https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/13/now-the-police-are-arresting-12-year-olds-for-hate-speech/ https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/13/now-the-police-are-... [1] https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094485542/eu-law-big-tech-hate-speech-disinformation https://www.npr.org/2022/04/23/1094485542/eu-law-big-tech-ha... [2] https://www.legaldive.com/news/digital-services-act-dsa-eu-misinformation-law-propaganda-compliance-facebook-gdpr/691657/ https://www.legaldive.com/news/digital-services-act-dsa-eu-m... [3] https://thebulletin.org/premium/2021-05/countries-have-more-than-100-laws-on-the-books-to-combat-misinformation-how-well-do-they-work/ https://thebulletin.org/premium/2021-05/countries-have-more-... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country [5] https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1352957/snp-news-scotland-hate-crime-law-humza-yousaf-holyrood-latest-nicola-sturgeon https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1352957/snp-news-sco... [6] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56364821 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-563... [7] https://www.thefire.org/news/new-survey-reveals-americans-attitudes-campus-free-speech https://www.thefire.org/news/new-survey-reveals-americans-at... [8] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/06/most-americans-support-freedom-speech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/06/most-amer... [9] https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/05/20/hate-speech https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...

birdyrooster 3y ago
Right so you don't know what it's like to live in a dystopian society where guns are everywhere and some are itching to use their weapon consciously or otherwise.