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And the mountain of concept art created by digital artists and uploaded to the web is putting them out of jobs thanks to DALL·E and friends. And the mountain o

And the mountain of concept art created by digital artists and uploaded to the web is putting them out of jobs thanks to DALL·E and friends. And the mountain of writing created by authors and uploaded to the web is putting them out of jobs. And the mountain of music created by musicians is going to start putting them out of jobs. Generative AI is an unprecedented transfer of wealth-generating capability from creative people to giant corporations.

bcrosby95 3y ago
And it will occur faster than any transition in history. Meatspace has natural limits to how fast things can do this.
- staunton 3y ago
  But, contrary to at any such developments in history, the people who are losing out aren't the "poor working class". They already have cultural and political power that they stand to lose. This might still go a lot of ways.
  - Timon3 3y ago
    Some of them sure, but you're painting with the broadest brush possible. Do you really think the average artist is not "poor working class", that they have cultural and political power?
    - staunton 3y ago
      Maybe not the average but the power is concentrated in a few and they are also affected. I'm expecting many who collectively do have power to participate in shaping how these things are used and perhaps oppose the big companies.
- skybrian 3y ago
  You imagine there won’t be other limits, but maybe we just don’t know what they are yet? It tends to be true that some things that are easy for people are hard for AI.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    This sounds a bit more like a cope than any substantiated claim, what tasks would AI struggle with?
    - skybrian 3y ago
      Neither claim is substantiated. We're just imagining different futures. You can imagine what you like.
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        It is a fair point and I hope you're right because I think humans being second best at everything will probably have bad outcomes for most of us but given the current trajectory, it does seem like a run away train for now.
blibble 3y ago
in a world where all office workers are now permanently unemployable: what use are Microsoft's products? AI kills 90% of demand for their products I don't think roofers need Microsoft Teams
- bitwize 3y ago
  But Microsoft doesn't sell to office workers, they sell to executives... who would relish the idea of getting rid of those office workers. And guess who owns "Open" "AI"...
  - blibble 3y ago
    will the executives buy legions of Windows machines if they don't have any workers?
    - bitwize 3y ago
      No, but Windows is a loss leader for Microsoft now. The real money is in AI and Azure.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Shareholders will replace executives immediately, and I don't think it's far off. If you think executives are safe from AI, well I think you're crazy. Imagine saving hundreds of millions a year in executive salaries by hiring a robot that has 1000x better strategic capabilities than you, is 10x cheaper, has absolutely zero empathy, never sleeps, just optimizes for money and just makes the required cold hard decisions ? Shareholders will go fucking nuts for this.

bcrosby95 3y ago

And it will occur faster than any transition in history. Meatspace has natural limits to how fast things can do this.

staunton 3y ago
But, contrary to at any such developments in history, the people who are losing out aren't the "poor working class". They already have cultural and political power that they stand to lose. This might still go a lot of ways.
- Timon3 3y ago
  Some of them sure, but you're painting with the broadest brush possible. Do you really think the average artist is not "poor working class", that they have cultural and political power?
  - staunton 3y ago
    Maybe not the average but the power is concentrated in a few and they are also affected. I'm expecting many who collectively do have power to participate in shaping how these things are used and perhaps oppose the big companies.
skybrian 3y ago
You imagine there won’t be other limits, but maybe we just don’t know what they are yet? It tends to be true that some things that are easy for people are hard for AI.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  This sounds a bit more like a cope than any substantiated claim, what tasks would AI struggle with?
  - skybrian 3y ago
    Neither claim is substantiated. We're just imagining different futures. You can imagine what you like.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      It is a fair point and I hope you're right because I think humans being second best at everything will probably have bad outcomes for most of us but given the current trajectory, it does seem like a run away train for now.

blibble 3y ago

in a world where all office workers are now permanently unemployable: what use are Microsoft's products? AI kills 90% of demand for their products I don't think roofers need Microsoft Teams

bitwize 3y ago
But Microsoft doesn't sell to office workers, they sell to executives... who would relish the idea of getting rid of those office workers. And guess who owns "Open" "AI"...
- blibble 3y ago
  will the executives buy legions of Windows machines if they don't have any workers?
  - bitwize 3y ago
    No, but Windows is a loss leader for Microsoft now. The real money is in AI and Azure.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Shareholders will replace executives immediately, and I don't think it's far off. If you think executives are safe from AI, well I think you're crazy. Imagine saving hundreds of millions a year in executive salaries by hiring a robot that has 1000x better strategic capabilities than you, is 10x cheaper, has absolutely zero empathy, never sleeps, just optimizes for money and just makes the required cold hard decisions ? Shareholders will go fucking nuts for this.