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Given how many "deleted" posts recently resurfaced, you are in fact not free to delete your content, because it won't be deleted, just hidden.

jamiequint 3y ago
Go through the GDPR deletion process if you care that much, will very likely be deleted because the fines are massive (4% of annual worldwide turnover)
- squarefoot 3y ago
  I'm not sure the GDPR can be enforced outside of the EU, therefore one can't be absolutely certain the posts will not appear if accessed from elsewhere.
  - fzeindl 3y ago
    It is enforced internationally just like copyright law. It is a law for EU users no matter where their data resides. Meta was fined 1.3 billion dollars in spring for GDPR violation.
    - Alupis 3y ago
      Being fined != paying a fine. Realistically, a company is only obligated to pay the fine if they have a physical presence within the EU, and care to keep that presence. For some companies, the calculus says pay the fines and cooperate with EU laws. But for most companies, they can and do safely ignore GDPR and other EU laws. EU laws do not apply outside the EU... despite what many Europeans want to believe.
      - fzeindl 3y ago
        That is your opinion. We will see what the courts say to Meta and Amazon.
      - lnxg33k1 3y ago
        But for most companies, they can and do safely ignore GDPR and other EU laws. EU laws do not apply outside the EU... despite what many Europeans want to believe. You’re right but when did you meet Europeans who said that a company selling in India has to respect GDPR? You only need to apply EU regulations if you serve EU citizens, or you get either fined or blocked
- ianferrel 3y ago
  I am not an EU citizen or resident, so I don't believe that avenue is open to me. Also, Twitter has not of late demonstrated significant susceptibility to regulations. I will note that we've narrowed the claim from "you're free to delete your content" to "If you live in some countries you're very likely to be able to delete your content", which I agree is probably true.
  - Ylpertnodi 3y ago
    >I am not an EU citizen or resident, Resident is enough.
    - Alupis 3y ago
      In a very real, practical sense, GDPR can be safely ignored for most non-EU companies. Europeans seem to believe things like GDPR apply to the entire world. They don't. If your company has no physical presence within the EU - ignore EU laws as much as you want. There is nothing they can do about it.
- dhoe 3y ago
  You would think so! I've requested deletion under GDPR and here's what you get in response: Thank you for your inquiry. You can deactivate your account at any time. When deactivated, your Twitter account, including your display name, username, and public profile, will no longer be viewable on Twitter.com, Twitter for iOS, and Twitter for Android. For up to 30 days after deactivation, it is still possible to restore your Twitter account if it was accidentally or wrongfully deactivated. Keep in mind that search engines and other third parties may still retain copies of your public information, like your profile information and public Tweets, even after you have deleted the information from our services or deactivated your account.
- crazygringo 3y ago
  GDPR means absolutely nothing between an American customer and an American company. It's completely irrelevant. And I'm not even sure it means anything even for users in the EU. If Twitter doesn't have any offices/subsidiaries/bank accounts in the EU, then even if the EU fined them, I'm not sure how that would ever be enforced?
  - jedberg 3y ago
    Twitter has an office in Ireland and is most definitely regulated under GDPR.
    - crazygringo 3y ago
      Is it still there? I knew they did previously, but last year there were reports it was possibly closing as part of Musk's layoffs. Looking online I can't find any recent information. Basically, given the way Musk has been ignoring other regulations and/or not paying for things, I'm wondering if he even cares about GDPR. And if he doesn't care and shuts down any legal European presence, then does it matter? (Of course if the Ireland office is still active and receiving lots of European advertiser revenue, then of course the GDPR has teeth.)
      - jedberg 3y ago
        My friend works there, it's definitely still there.
        Alupis 3y ago
        Perhaps not for long... Shutting that office down and safely ignoring the GDPR is probably a valid concession for a US-based business built around data collection. It's not like EU users will stop or be blocked from using X anyway.
        crazygringo 3y ago
        Thanks! OK, GDPR should still have teeth then. Good to know.
- Raed667 3y ago
  They don't have a form to request the information to be deleted under GDPR. I have looked everywhere under help.twitter.com and they just ask you to disable your account.
jiofj 3y ago
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- nitwit005 3y ago
  Type "twitter deleted posts reappearing" into Google, and browse the dozens of news articles.
  - jiofj 3y ago
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    - nitwit005 3y ago
      If you've used Twitter in the last six months or so, you'll have seen serious and obvious bugs. Large numbers of people report seeing a bug. Having them all be liars seems rather unlikely.
      - jiofj 3y ago
        Seeing bugs is one thing (I stopped using twitter like 5 years ago or so and it was always a bug fest so I can believe it got even worse) but we are talking about a single specific bug here with important privacy consequences. Some reliable proof would be nice.

jamiequint 3y ago

Go through the GDPR deletion process if you care that much, will very likely be deleted because the fines are massive (4% of annual worldwide turnover)

squarefoot 3y ago
I'm not sure the GDPR can be enforced outside of the EU, therefore one can't be absolutely certain the posts will not appear if accessed from elsewhere.
- fzeindl 3y ago
  It is enforced internationally just like copyright law. It is a law for EU users no matter where their data resides. Meta was fined 1.3 billion dollars in spring for GDPR violation.
  - Alupis 3y ago
    Being fined != paying a fine. Realistically, a company is only obligated to pay the fine if they have a physical presence within the EU, and care to keep that presence. For some companies, the calculus says pay the fines and cooperate with EU laws. But for most companies, they can and do safely ignore GDPR and other EU laws. EU laws do not apply outside the EU... despite what many Europeans want to believe.
    - fzeindl 3y ago
      That is your opinion. We will see what the courts say to Meta and Amazon.
    - lnxg33k1 3y ago
      But for most companies, they can and do safely ignore GDPR and other EU laws. EU laws do not apply outside the EU... despite what many Europeans want to believe. You’re right but when did you meet Europeans who said that a company selling in India has to respect GDPR? You only need to apply EU regulations if you serve EU citizens, or you get either fined or blocked
ianferrel 3y ago
I am not an EU citizen or resident, so I don't believe that avenue is open to me. Also, Twitter has not of late demonstrated significant susceptibility to regulations. I will note that we've narrowed the claim from "you're free to delete your content" to "If you live in some countries you're very likely to be able to delete your content", which I agree is probably true.
- Ylpertnodi 3y ago
  >I am not an EU citizen or resident, Resident is enough.
  - Alupis 3y ago
    In a very real, practical sense, GDPR can be safely ignored for most non-EU companies. Europeans seem to believe things like GDPR apply to the entire world. They don't. If your company has no physical presence within the EU - ignore EU laws as much as you want. There is nothing they can do about it.
dhoe 3y ago
You would think so! I've requested deletion under GDPR and here's what you get in response: Thank you for your inquiry. You can deactivate your account at any time. When deactivated, your Twitter account, including your display name, username, and public profile, will no longer be viewable on Twitter.com, Twitter for iOS, and Twitter for Android. For up to 30 days after deactivation, it is still possible to restore your Twitter account if it was accidentally or wrongfully deactivated. Keep in mind that search engines and other third parties may still retain copies of your public information, like your profile information and public Tweets, even after you have deleted the information from our services or deactivated your account.
crazygringo 3y ago
GDPR means absolutely nothing between an American customer and an American company. It's completely irrelevant. And I'm not even sure it means anything even for users in the EU. If Twitter doesn't have any offices/subsidiaries/bank accounts in the EU, then even if the EU fined them, I'm not sure how that would ever be enforced?
- jedberg 3y ago
  Twitter has an office in Ireland and is most definitely regulated under GDPR.
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    Is it still there? I knew they did previously, but last year there were reports it was possibly closing as part of Musk's layoffs. Looking online I can't find any recent information. Basically, given the way Musk has been ignoring other regulations and/or not paying for things, I'm wondering if he even cares about GDPR. And if he doesn't care and shuts down any legal European presence, then does it matter? (Of course if the Ireland office is still active and receiving lots of European advertiser revenue, then of course the GDPR has teeth.)
    - jedberg 3y ago
      My friend works there, it's definitely still there.
      - Alupis 3y ago
        Perhaps not for long... Shutting that office down and safely ignoring the GDPR is probably a valid concession for a US-based business built around data collection. It's not like EU users will stop or be blocked from using X anyway.
      - crazygringo 3y ago
        Thanks! OK, GDPR should still have teeth then. Good to know.
Raed667 3y ago
They don't have a form to request the information to be deleted under GDPR. I have looked everywhere under help.twitter.com and they just ask you to disable your account.

jiofj 3y ago

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nitwit005 3y ago
Type "twitter deleted posts reappearing" into Google, and browse the dozens of news articles.
- jiofj 3y ago
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  - nitwit005 3y ago
    If you've used Twitter in the last six months or so, you'll have seen serious and obvious bugs. Large numbers of people report seeing a bug. Having them all be liars seems rather unlikely.
    - jiofj 3y ago
      Seeing bugs is one thing (I stopped using twitter like 5 years ago or so and it was always a bug fest so I can believe it got even worse) but we are talking about a single specific bug here with important privacy consequences. Some reliable proof would be nice.