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The article shows a graphic showing 3 scooter related deaths in 2022. They state that 15000 scooters have been removed from the streets of Paris (presumably re
by davidhyde 3y ago
The article shows a graphic showing 3 scooter related deaths in 2022.
They state that 15000 scooters have been removed from the streets of Paris (presumably rentals since private is not banned) but fail to state the total number of scooters. Other useful bits of information omitted are were:
Were those deaths pedestrians or riders? (Given that the complaints were about sidewalk riding)
How many bicycles are in use in Paris and what is the death ratio there?
Are bicycle accidents less severe than scooter accidents?
I imagine that I’d rather be hit by a scooter than speared by a bicycle but maybe scooter riders are just more out of control. There is so much detail that could be covered in these sorts of articles but they always seem to disappoint.
The only interesting insight made was that the decision was most likely skewed by older voters who don’t ride.
- xhkkffbf 3y agoIt's worth noting that the eScooters are one of the most efficient (and thus greenest) form of transportation around. The mass overhead is very low, especially compared to other devices like cars, mopeds and even bikes. This is definitely a short-sighted move by the city.
- boudin 3y agoEscooter are far less green than walking, regular bikes or existing public transport. The rental ones requires plenty of vehicles to be recharged as well, which makes those technically running partially on fossil fuel. And it's a fairly big annoyance for pedestrian most of all (i guess that's why parisian voted against those escooter rental companies).
- xhkkffbf 3y agoAre you so sure? How much CO2 does a human put out to walk a mile? As it is, I only compared them to other vehicles. It's not really fair to compare them to walking which is much slower and often impossible for the less than fit.
- boudin 3y agoAre you saying that seriously?
- xhkkffbf 3y agoYes. Seriously. How many extra carbs do you burn to walk a mile? Those end up in the atmosphere as CO2. There's no free lunch, so to speak. Given that animals aren't super efficient already, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that something like a moped puts less CO2 in the air to move a sedentary human compared to a human that's huffing and puffing CO2.
- mvid 3y agoUsing a scooter requires you to be more fit than walking. You need better strength, balance and reaction time. Scooters are essentially limited to the young
- kevmo 3y agoAs someone who routinely dodges scooter drivers speeding recklessly down sidewalks and bike paths, it doesn't feel short-sighted. I wish my city would ban them.
- bni 3y agoRental scooters is an e-waste disaster
- fatfingerd 3y agoI don't think they are nearly as bad as cars from a waste perspective, even if they are short lived, it takes quite a few of them to make one car worth of (e)trash. If they weren't allowed on sidewalks and parked in (repurposed) car spaces I'd be fine with them.
- hulitu 3y agoCars don't get thrown in rivers do often.
- InvertedRhodium 3y agoThey've been pulling at least one a month out of my local river for the past 8 years or so.
- mlambie 3y ago[dead]