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Hah, that breed of management predates the JS world of crap. My current manager sees no problem in the job postings ridiculously listing every single language/p

Hah, that breed of management predates the JS world of crap. My current manager sees no problem in the job postings ridiculously listing every single language/platform we have worked with, even 30 year old 8086 projects, even when any new hire will most likely be touching none of that and will be writing some mundane C for an ARM. "It doesn't hurt to list everything!" - Him "Why the fuck would someone want to apply to what looks like an absolute hell-hole?" - Me "But they should apply anyway if they know some of it!" - Him No shit the quality of applicants is sometimes not the greatest

datavirtue 3y ago
I'm thinking of joining Kroger to help with the Albertsons merger. They are looking for Java developers, cool, some sanity. Learned they have decided to build all new stuff in Go. Like WTSF people? I can find no justification for building mundane business systems in Go. Ugh...managers.
- ttfkam 3y ago
  You want to use substantially less RAM and therefore reduce the number of instances/containers you need to serve requests, thereby non-trivially reducing infrastructure costs? Or you're on AWS moving toward a more event-driven or serverless architecture where Java doesn't really have the same flexibility (and you don't want to retool your builds for GraalVM)? Go lambdas are really fast and trivially easy to write. You want substantially faster build times to reduce developer idle wait cycles? There are plenty of reasons to move to Go. (Note: I last coded a Java service last year in v17, and my first Java code was using v1.02. I'm no Java hater.)
  - datavirtue 3y ago
    I get what you are saying and I can agree with that. It would be nice if that level of performance was their main concern. However, we are talking about an org that never has full dev staffing and has a lot of turnover and needs to respond to business needs quickly. I would not want to be trying to hire Go devs in that situation. They have banished AWS..."competitor." A company that can easily justify their own infrastructure (and save a ton of money) is plunging into the Microsoft Azure hot mess. I could go on and on about a lot of other issues brewing there. Very dysfunctional and panicy trying to look hip to investors in comparison to Wal-Mart and AWS. Basically dragged kicking and screaming into online ordering and pickup/delivery and trying to act like it was their idea (very much had/have a browse-in-store sell you more crap you don't need model). I'm a life long customer of many of their stores and have been plugged into their tech issues via various contacts for about a decade.

datavirtue 3y ago

I'm thinking of joining Kroger to help with the Albertsons merger. They are looking for Java developers, cool, some sanity. Learned they have decided to build all new stuff in Go. Like WTSF people? I can find no justification for building mundane business systems in Go. Ugh...managers.

ttfkam 3y ago
You want to use substantially less RAM and therefore reduce the number of instances/containers you need to serve requests, thereby non-trivially reducing infrastructure costs? Or you're on AWS moving toward a more event-driven or serverless architecture where Java doesn't really have the same flexibility (and you don't want to retool your builds for GraalVM)? Go lambdas are really fast and trivially easy to write. You want substantially faster build times to reduce developer idle wait cycles? There are plenty of reasons to move to Go. (Note: I last coded a Java service last year in v17, and my first Java code was using v1.02. I'm no Java hater.)
- datavirtue 3y ago
  I get what you are saying and I can agree with that. It would be nice if that level of performance was their main concern. However, we are talking about an org that never has full dev staffing and has a lot of turnover and needs to respond to business needs quickly. I would not want to be trying to hire Go devs in that situation. They have banished AWS..."competitor." A company that can easily justify their own infrastructure (and save a ton of money) is plunging into the Microsoft Azure hot mess. I could go on and on about a lot of other issues brewing there. Very dysfunctional and panicy trying to look hip to investors in comparison to Wal-Mart and AWS. Basically dragged kicking and screaming into online ordering and pickup/delivery and trying to act like it was their idea (very much had/have a browse-in-store sell you more crap you don't need model). I'm a life long customer of many of their stores and have been plugged into their tech issues via various contacts for about a decade.