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Abandoning e-scooters but keeping the Vespas and Lambrettas (operated by Citiscoot and Cooltra) doesn't make any sense. The Vespas and Lambrettas are way bigge

Abandoning e-scooters but keeping the Vespas and Lambrettas (operated by Citiscoot and Cooltra) doesn't make any sense. The Vespas and Lambrettas are way bigger and create higher disruption of foot traffic on sidewalks. With e-scooters gone people will jump on those even more often and consequently leave them on sidewalks even more often.

Fradow 3y ago
Users of Vespas and Lambrettas are largely not a nuisance: they don't ride on sidewalks, utterly disrespect traffic rules while endangering themselves and others, and are generally properly parked (at least well enough to not be a noticeable nuisance). There is probably a link with them being more expensive, requiring a licence, being registered and the fact that they are not perceived as a nuisance. I really doubt e-scooters users are going to jump on those in numbers large enough to make a difference.
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
  It takes 24h at most to register on the "Vespa" sharing service with a driving license. And yes once you have a "small" 2 wheel vehicle people are gonna ride them on sidewalks and park them on sidewalks. For all practical purpose the width bubble is the same around the e-scooter and a Vespa, unless you want to be borderline suicidal with the e-scooter. The only thing that's different is the required athleticism to mount and dismount as well as parking the "Vespa" on the stand. I reckon maybe they solved the problem of people riding the e-scooter in the opposite sense on the road and the problem of people lifting the e- scooter to transport the e-scooter to areas which are completely closed to vehicles and then riding it there
- smileysteve 3y ago
  This sounds like an enforcement problem. How much do cities spend on police cars for traffic flow, moving, and even parking violations; but not have similar ratios to enforce more efficient space/energy and safer transportation methods? In the US, part of our infrastructure underspend is going from full time janitor at a park to a weekly visit by a contractor.

Fradow 3y ago

Users of Vespas and Lambrettas are largely not a nuisance: they don't ride on sidewalks, utterly disrespect traffic rules while endangering themselves and others, and are generally properly parked (at least well enough to not be a noticeable nuisance). There is probably a link with them being more expensive, requiring a licence, being registered and the fact that they are not perceived as a nuisance. I really doubt e-scooters users are going to jump on those in numbers large enough to make a difference.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
It takes 24h at most to register on the "Vespa" sharing service with a driving license. And yes once you have a "small" 2 wheel vehicle people are gonna ride them on sidewalks and park them on sidewalks. For all practical purpose the width bubble is the same around the e-scooter and a Vespa, unless you want to be borderline suicidal with the e-scooter. The only thing that's different is the required athleticism to mount and dismount as well as parking the "Vespa" on the stand. I reckon maybe they solved the problem of people riding the e-scooter in the opposite sense on the road and the problem of people lifting the e- scooter to transport the e-scooter to areas which are completely closed to vehicles and then riding it there
smileysteve 3y ago
This sounds like an enforcement problem. How much do cities spend on police cars for traffic flow, moving, and even parking violations; but not have similar ratios to enforce more efficient space/energy and safer transportation methods? In the US, part of our infrastructure underspend is going from full time janitor at a park to a weekly visit by a contractor.