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I care. I've only recently learned about them, and I'm not in any way an expert on any of this, but from what I understand, they do an important job, and the wa

by mcv 3y ago

I care. I've only recently learned about them, and I'm not in any way an expert on any of this, but from what I understand, they do an important job, and the way they do that in X11 either hurts gaming performance or makes them unstable. When I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077, occasionally the game crashes (hasn't happened often, but a few times), and when it does, the compositor fails until I kill the CP process. And while the compositor is failing, only the active window updates. The mouse cursor is invisible outside the active window. It becomes really hard to do anything. Until I kill the hanging CP2077 process. From what I understand, my options are to keep the compositor active in full screen mode, which would hurt performance, because every signal has to pass through the compositor; or I could switch to Wayland which fixes this issue (though I'm not entirely sure how); or I just accept how it is. Because I've got an Nvidia card, I'm sticking with X11 for now and accept the occasional crash. But once Nvidia support for Wayland improves, I'm switching.

mcpackieh 3y ago
I haven't tried Cyberpunk 2077, but I play a bit of Minecraft and from my testing KDE's Wayland implementation has about a 25% FPS penalty at least. I keep the FPS capped at 60fps, my display speed, and with X11/kwin the game can maintain that in all but extreme circumstances (e.g. breeding thousands of mobs, or https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-226966 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-226966 (ludicrous bug btw)) With Wayland in the same parts of the map my FPS will be in the 40s. This is with numerous performance mods; without those it's much worse. It's not something I care to spend time debugging, since Wayland doesn't give me any other reason to chose it anyway. But I still try it once or twice a year to see if it has improved, and after several years of this I'm starting to think it never will.
- mcv 3y ago
  That's a lot worse than I expected. I thought Wayland was supposed to be able to handle this without performance loss, but that's clearly not the case here. It doesn't make me eager to try out Wayland, but maybe I should try it for myself.

by mcv 3y ago

mcpackieh 3y ago

I haven't tried Cyberpunk 2077, but I play a bit of Minecraft and from my testing KDE's Wayland implementation has about a 25% FPS penalty at least. I keep the FPS capped at 60fps, my display speed, and with X11/kwin the game can maintain that in all but extreme circumstances (e.g. breeding thousands of mobs, or https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-226966 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-226966 (ludicrous bug btw)) With Wayland in the same parts of the map my FPS will be in the 40s. This is with numerous performance mods; without those it's much worse. It's not something I care to spend time debugging, since Wayland doesn't give me any other reason to chose it anyway. But I still try it once or twice a year to see if it has improved, and after several years of this I'm starting to think it never will.

mcv 3y ago
That's a lot worse than I expected. I thought Wayland was supposed to be able to handle this without performance loss, but that's clearly not the case here. It doesn't make me eager to try out Wayland, but maybe I should try it for myself.