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I think this is something that has not been well integrated into smartphone devices & computers Here is what I would want. - Access to my child's browsing his

by max_ 3y ago

I think this is something that has not been well integrated into smartphone devices & computers Here is what I would want. - Access to my child's browsing history - Access to my child's YouTube watch history - Require my (remote approval) before a child wants to install an application - Give me the remote ability to turn off acess to certain applicationsy child use for a certain period - The ability for me to block certain sites from my child browser like shock sites

eimrine 3y ago
You know what's really funny? The government of the United States has a complete list of everything you have listed. As a topikstarter, I want to tell you that you missed the point of the question asked. Not to mention that you want to re-test what is already being checked by competent people, instead of wanting to positively influence learning.
- l33t7332273 3y ago
  >The government of the United States has a complete list of everything you have listed Is this a logical conclusion/hunch/feeling, or is this documented somewhere?
  - eimrine 3y ago
    Hasn't Snowden documented enough of it?
NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
I believe there's plenty of apps which will give you most of that, but generally they are termed "stalkerware", and the app stores will remove them based on their utility to abusive domestic partners and the like.
- max_ 3y ago
  I don't want to install 3rd party software. I want these features to come with Firefox, Chrome, MacOS, Windows & Linux
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Well have you looked into Google Family Link? https://support.google.com/families/answer/7680868?sjid=9290363271137909327-NA#manage_activity&zippy=%2Cmanage-your-childs-browsing-on-chrome%2Cfind-chrome-history%2Cclear-chrome-history-data https://support.google.com/families/answer/7680868?sjid=9290... Google offers you the ability to set up children's accounts with parental controls. I believe it offers some or all of this functionality. It appears that you actually need to access the child's account to view their history (doesn't seem different than an adult's in that respect) but you can definitely enact parental controls and whatnot. You can block or whitelist websites and apps for sure.
  - prepend 3y ago
    macOS and iOS have it built in. Look for “parental controls. Windows has it built in but I’ve found it pretty non-functional.
peddling-brink 3y ago
- use a DNS profile, this gives you the websites they visit. Eg. NextDNS - block YouTube. Mirror content you approve of locally. Yt-dlp + Jellyfin - iOS has these last three built in to screen time. DNS can help with the last one too. I’d urge you to resist attempting total control. Trust and verify can go a long way.
tflinton 3y ago
My kids share an iPad and you can enable screen time and parental controls to do everything you’ve mentioned. Also for YouTube just install YouTube Kids it has no ads and prescreened content for kids 8 and less. Parents can also block channels on it.
- Nebasuke 3y ago
  FYI: YouTube Kids does have ads, although a lot less so than YouTube. It also mainly shows an ad at the start, and often only after one episode (for me at least).
whateverman23 3y ago
Unless we're talking about very very young children, I have an extremely hard time with this. I had none of that as a child, and I assume neither did most adults here. Because I had none of that, I'm a software engineer making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. In no world would I be where I am today with those limitations. - What am I going to do with my child's browsing history except snoop? Are we still worried about porn in 2023? - What applications are they going to install that I'd want to override that couldn't be solved by not giving them a credit card number? - What are they going to watch on Youtube that can't be solved by simply limiting device time? - Shock sites? Surely every one of us experienced that at some point in our childhood, and I haven't thought about them in years. And are they even in vogue these days? - Stories like strangers trying to meet up with children seem on par with poisoned halloween candy. It happens incredibly infrequently, often ends up being a known family member anyway, and people forever fear it as if it's actually something to fear in their daily lives. I think communication, education, and limiting screen time at certain ages is the only healthy thing to do. Giving children (yes, even young children) some privacy is important. Your suggestions I believe fall into the "helicopter parent" territory.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  This might be a surprise to some, but the highly paid engineers who invented the internet did not have access to the internet when they were children. Correlation is not causation, and in this case I can't even imagine the causal link in your claim. Also until extremely recently, almost no one saw adult material unless they found a magazine of utterly tame (by today's standards) printed nudity.
  - whateverman23 3y ago
    You can't become a highly paid engineer today with just books and punch cards. I don't know why any of that is relevant. So porn is part of the issue? Really?
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      No one mentioned just a book and punch cards. > So porn is part of the issue? Really? Isn't that your claim? You needed access to sites your parents wouldn't have allowed to become the engineer you are today?
watwut 3y ago
Most of these exist on android.
balaji1 3y ago
if you and your kids use Chrome, you can log into the same email id as their device (in a separate chrome profile on your device). You can access browsing and YT history. Believe there's a way to turn off incognito also. Might work on other browsers too.

by max_ 3y ago

eimrine 3y ago

You know what's really funny? The government of the United States has a complete list of everything you have listed. As a topikstarter, I want to tell you that you missed the point of the question asked. Not to mention that you want to re-test what is already being checked by competent people, instead of wanting to positively influence learning.

l33t7332273 3y ago
>The government of the United States has a complete list of everything you have listed Is this a logical conclusion/hunch/feeling, or is this documented somewhere?
- eimrine 3y ago
  Hasn't Snowden documented enough of it?

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

I believe there's plenty of apps which will give you most of that, but generally they are termed "stalkerware", and the app stores will remove them based on their utility to abusive domestic partners and the like.

max_ 3y ago
I don't want to install 3rd party software. I want these features to come with Firefox, Chrome, MacOS, Windows & Linux
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Well have you looked into Google Family Link? https://support.google.com/families/answer/7680868?sjid=9290363271137909327-NA#manage_activity&zippy=%2Cmanage-your-childs-browsing-on-chrome%2Cfind-chrome-history%2Cclear-chrome-history-data https://support.google.com/families/answer/7680868?sjid=9290... Google offers you the ability to set up children's accounts with parental controls. I believe it offers some or all of this functionality. It appears that you actually need to access the child's account to view their history (doesn't seem different than an adult's in that respect) but you can definitely enact parental controls and whatnot. You can block or whitelist websites and apps for sure.
- prepend 3y ago
  macOS and iOS have it built in. Look for “parental controls. Windows has it built in but I’ve found it pretty non-functional.

peddling-brink 3y ago

- use a DNS profile, this gives you the websites they visit. Eg. NextDNS - block YouTube. Mirror content you approve of locally. Yt-dlp + Jellyfin - iOS has these last three built in to screen time. DNS can help with the last one too. I’d urge you to resist attempting total control. Trust and verify can go a long way.

tflinton 3y ago

My kids share an iPad and you can enable screen time and parental controls to do everything you’ve mentioned. Also for YouTube just install YouTube Kids it has no ads and prescreened content for kids 8 and less. Parents can also block channels on it.

Nebasuke 3y ago
FYI: YouTube Kids does have ads, although a lot less so than YouTube. It also mainly shows an ad at the start, and often only after one episode (for me at least).

whateverman23 3y ago

Unless we're talking about very very young children, I have an extremely hard time with this. I had none of that as a child, and I assume neither did most adults here. Because I had none of that, I'm a software engineer making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. In no world would I be where I am today with those limitations. - What am I going to do with my child's browsing history except snoop? Are we still worried about porn in 2023? - What applications are they going to install that I'd want to override that couldn't be solved by not giving them a credit card number? - What are they going to watch on Youtube that can't be solved by simply limiting device time? - Shock sites? Surely every one of us experienced that at some point in our childhood, and I haven't thought about them in years. And are they even in vogue these days? - Stories like strangers trying to meet up with children seem on par with poisoned halloween candy. It happens incredibly infrequently, often ends up being a known family member anyway, and people forever fear it as if it's actually something to fear in their daily lives. I think communication, education, and limiting screen time at certain ages is the only healthy thing to do. Giving children (yes, even young children) some privacy is important. Your suggestions I believe fall into the "helicopter parent" territory.

robertlagrant 3y ago
This might be a surprise to some, but the highly paid engineers who invented the internet did not have access to the internet when they were children. Correlation is not causation, and in this case I can't even imagine the causal link in your claim. Also until extremely recently, almost no one saw adult material unless they found a magazine of utterly tame (by today's standards) printed nudity.
- whateverman23 3y ago
  You can't become a highly paid engineer today with just books and punch cards. I don't know why any of that is relevant. So porn is part of the issue? Really?
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    No one mentioned just a book and punch cards. > So porn is part of the issue? Really? Isn't that your claim? You needed access to sites your parents wouldn't have allowed to become the engineer you are today?

watwut 3y ago

Most of these exist on android.

balaji1 3y ago

if you and your kids use Chrome, you can log into the same email id as their device (in a separate chrome profile on your device). You can access browsing and YT history. Believe there's a way to turn off incognito also. Might work on other browsers too.