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> These 4x GHG sources alone produce more GHG emissions than our _entire_ Agricultural activity (Plants + Livestock) including deforestation and crop burning I

> These 4x GHG sources alone produce more GHG emissions than our _entire_ Agricultural activity (Plants + Livestock) including deforestation and crop burning If someone wants to decrease their green house emissions, its very hard to personally do anything about the Steel/Cement/Oil industry without a fair amount of effort - particularly if you're part of the "younger generation". Changes to those industries takes concerted political/industrial effort and vested interests want to maintain the status-quo. However, anyone can give up or reduce the amount of beef they're eating without much effort, no government regulation needed.

DoingIsLearning 3y ago
Most people that care about environment, animal cruelty, and ethics are already small consumers of meat anyway. I would hazard guess also that any market reduction in Beef consumption in the West would be absorbed by Asian Markets, producers would not be producing less. Actions like: - Reducing/eliminating car usage - Reducing residential heating/cooling Are something individuals control and both would objectively have a much much greater GHG emissions impact. However they are not as popular in public discourse.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  Looking at some documentaries about living conditions in very dense places proves that humans could survive in much smaller housing. You could massively increase density of housing and people would still stay alive. But for some reason this is never suggested as solution before stopping eating meat...
- jebarker 3y ago
  > Most people that care about environment, animal cruelty, and ethics are already small consumers of meat anyway. Based on what I see for sale in grocery stores and on restaurant menus a huge amount of meat is consumed in the US. I have a hard time believing it's all being consumed by people that don't care about the environment, animal cruelty and ethics. I think/hope that most people care about those things but just feel they are powerless to do anything about them or maybe aren't aware how bad some situations are, e.g. animal welfare in the meat industry.

DoingIsLearning 3y ago

Most people that care about environment, animal cruelty, and ethics are already small consumers of meat anyway. I would hazard guess also that any market reduction in Beef consumption in the West would be absorbed by Asian Markets, producers would not be producing less. Actions like: - Reducing/eliminating car usage - Reducing residential heating/cooling Are something individuals control and both would objectively have a much much greater GHG emissions impact. However they are not as popular in public discourse.

Ekaros 3y ago
Looking at some documentaries about living conditions in very dense places proves that humans could survive in much smaller housing. You could massively increase density of housing and people would still stay alive. But for some reason this is never suggested as solution before stopping eating meat...
jebarker 3y ago
> Most people that care about environment, animal cruelty, and ethics are already small consumers of meat anyway. Based on what I see for sale in grocery stores and on restaurant menus a huge amount of meat is consumed in the US. I have a hard time believing it's all being consumed by people that don't care about the environment, animal cruelty and ethics. I think/hope that most people care about those things but just feel they are powerless to do anything about them or maybe aren't aware how bad some situations are, e.g. animal welfare in the meat industry.