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Sexism (specifically in tech) is the new racism. If you go down that path of anything remotely sexist, expect to be torn to shreds just as quickly as if you ma
by ctide 15y ago
Sexism (specifically in tech) is the new racism. If you go down that path of anything remotely sexist, expect to be torn to shreds just as quickly as if you made a racist remark. If people didn't get offended, then people like Sqoot will feel like it's totally OK to belittle women, even if they would never think to include racist jokes.
- thoradam 15y agoActually that's the funny part, this "joke" was in no way belittling women, it's idolizing them. It was made at the expense of the stereotypical male geek to whom women are otherwise inaccessible. Somehow it was appropriated as being about the female attendees.
- knowtheory 15y agoHaving/Wanting someone to serve you is not "idolizing". And as said elsewhere, just because you say shitty things about everyone doesn't mean that it's okay to say shitty things.
- thoradam 15y ago> Having/Wanting someone to serve you is not "idolizing". Is that the point of contention, that people feel that serving someone is demeaning? > And as said elsewhere, just because you say shitty things about everyone doesn't mean that it's okay to say shitty things. So you agree that the comment wasn't slighting women? Or are you just generally offended by all the possible interpretations?
- Gayle 15y agoYes... it's idolizing women... as sexual objects offered as a perk to male coders so that they can serve the men. As a female coder, I'd rather not be offered as a perk to male coders. So, yeah, this is belittling.
- thoradam 15y agoIt wasn't directed at the female attendees at all. Here's how it was meant: "Hey lonely geeks: you will have the chance to meet women there because our catering staff is female." Did you interpret it as though they were planning to force the female attendees to serve the male attendees beer?
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- DanBC 15y agoNo. You are wrong. The original flyer was clearly offering a perk of women delivering beer. The perk is first named "Women:" and then described "Need another beer? Let one of our friendly (female) staff get that for you." That first word "women:" is not aimed at a female audience. It's aimed at a male audience. It's clumsily using stereotypes of programmers as mostly single males. That's pretty offensive in itself.
- WayneDB 15y agoThank you. I had trouble finding the original advert and I thought that sentence was the entire ad. When I finally found it, I came back and deleted my posts. Sorry about that.
- WayneDB 15y agoYou weren't being offered as a perk to male coders though. Other women were not even "being offered". Saying that women will be serving beer has nothing to do with the act of sex. If you think so, then you're reading way too far into it.
- DanBC 15y agoCan you honestly not see how telling a bunch of men that they will be served by friendly female staff is appealing to sexual desire? I'm not sure why you say that other women were not being offered. Here's the item in the list of perks. "Women: Need another beer? Let one of our friendly (female) staff get that for you.""