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This is proof that all you need to get up the front page on HN is a title that matches the current zeitgeist. The article itself is terrible, making mountains

This is proof that all you need to get up the front page on HN is a title that matches the current zeitgeist. The article itself is terrible, making mountains out of molehills. I'm someone who'd never even be confused as a brogrammer, but someone explain to me what's negative about this "Drinking beer, lifting weights, picking up women, and kicking out a new JSON parser before dinner. ". That actually sounds like a damn good day in my book. On top of its ridiculous hand wringing, the article is meandering and bizarrely attaches network TV and Louis C.K. to its thesis. Forget brogrammers, this is the kind of reactionary, overly-P.C buzzkill I'd really hate to work with.

asdfasdf4321 15y ago
haha, all I could think while reading it was "what information is actually here" and came away with a headache
angersock 15y ago
Hey brah, so, like, lemme break it down for ya. These bros planned a hella sick party out in Boston. There was going to be hot chicks, they were gonna do Rails and kegstands--it was gonna be the hottest thing since Southby. (Even the Zuck was checking it out.) But, like, the ad they payed some hipster to write, like, wasn't bronificial to the party. They didn't underline the amount of dubstep and wubwub, and, like, without the proper flag raised a bunch of those pansy Valley coders got all butthurt. Like, really, who doesn't want to rep while they REPL? Who doesn't like drinks served by the hottest bitches; what're they, some kind of queerlicopter? This author, brahly, seems to think, like, maybe they pitched to the wrong audience, you know. Like when we tried to pitch that NattyIce/Pets.com mashup, and the VCs were all like "Are you sure that your target demographic of bros who like light beer and dogs actually exist?" and we were like "Pshhhhaw yeah" and they were like "You'll hear from us--don't call."
LaGrange 15y ago
"picking up women" This is what's wrong with this. I mean, I do know it's a pretty good day for a chauvinistic dude, but that's objectification of women as pleasure devices. "overly-P.C buzzkill" Aw. Someone ruined making fun of women for you.
- namidark 15y ago
  Everyone is WAY to oversensitive about this issue. Why dont we harp on alcoholism, or the lack of exercise being done at these events?
  - gisikw 15y ago
    Because alcoholism and lethargy primarily harm the self - rather than others. Sexism targets and excludes groups of individuals.
- ArtB 15y ago
  Sorry, but what exactly is sexist about trying to get laid? Not trolling, or sarcastic. It honestly seemed like an event that tried to combine the things that a certain demographic of people like to do into one event. I don't see how different this is from a Sushi buffet-dubstep-LAN event. If it was a networking conference for high-powered female C*Os and they were advertising that the waiter's were all young buff men I wouldn't get up in arms. Interesting story: I went for dinner out with a friend (both males) and all the girls (we saw only women waitresses their) were ~20ish and in small black dresses. Our waitress was one of these. However, our food and drinks were brought to us by men that looked like tax accounts. Then we spotted a male waiter, he was serving a table of young women... and he was built (biceps with a diameter of a strip of bacon), tanned, and coifed, but their food was brought but those same tax accounts. That's not sexism, but sex appeal in marketting and was used gender neutrally, and it seemed the ratio of male vs female servers was reflective of the patrons.
  - untog 15y ago
    Sorry, but what exactly is sexist about trying to get laid? Nothing. The hilarious image of a bunch of brogrammers hitting on their waitresses aside, the issue is that the event effectively excluded women programmers- or at least made it clear that they weren't wanted. Perhaps if the flyer boasted "hot chicks and buff dudes serving you drinks" it might be a little more equal. Horrifying, but equal.
  - batista 15y ago
calinet6 15y ago
Even so, when I saw the event and its pathetic attempt to appeal to get some free work done for sponsors, it set off more than one red flag. It wasn't so much the PC-ness as the poor marketing that turned me off.

asdfasdf4321 15y ago

haha, all I could think while reading it was "what information is actually here" and came away with a headache

angersock 15y ago

Hey brah, so, like, lemme break it down for ya. These bros planned a hella sick party out in Boston. There was going to be hot chicks, they were gonna do Rails and kegstands--it was gonna be the hottest thing since Southby. (Even the Zuck was checking it out.) But, like, the ad they payed some hipster to write, like, wasn't bronificial to the party. They didn't underline the amount of dubstep and wubwub, and, like, without the proper flag raised a bunch of those pansy Valley coders got all butthurt. Like, really, who doesn't want to rep while they REPL? Who doesn't like drinks served by the hottest bitches; what're they, some kind of queerlicopter? This author, brahly, seems to think, like, maybe they pitched to the wrong audience, you know. Like when we tried to pitch that NattyIce/Pets.com mashup, and the VCs were all like "Are you sure that your target demographic of bros who like light beer and dogs actually exist?" and we were like "Pshhhhaw yeah" and they were like "You'll hear from us--don't call."

LaGrange 15y ago

"picking up women" This is what's wrong with this. I mean, I do know it's a pretty good day for a chauvinistic dude, but that's objectification of women as pleasure devices. "overly-P.C buzzkill" Aw. Someone ruined making fun of women for you.

namidark 15y ago
Everyone is WAY to oversensitive about this issue. Why dont we harp on alcoholism, or the lack of exercise being done at these events?
- gisikw 15y ago
  Because alcoholism and lethargy primarily harm the self - rather than others. Sexism targets and excludes groups of individuals.
ArtB 15y ago
Sorry, but what exactly is sexist about trying to get laid? Not trolling, or sarcastic. It honestly seemed like an event that tried to combine the things that a certain demographic of people like to do into one event. I don't see how different this is from a Sushi buffet-dubstep-LAN event. If it was a networking conference for high-powered female C*Os and they were advertising that the waiter's were all young buff men I wouldn't get up in arms. Interesting story: I went for dinner out with a friend (both males) and all the girls (we saw only women waitresses their) were ~20ish and in small black dresses. Our waitress was one of these. However, our food and drinks were brought to us by men that looked like tax accounts. Then we spotted a male waiter, he was serving a table of young women... and he was built (biceps with a diameter of a strip of bacon), tanned, and coifed, but their food was brought but those same tax accounts. That's not sexism, but sex appeal in marketting and was used gender neutrally, and it seemed the ratio of male vs female servers was reflective of the patrons.
- untog 15y ago
  Sorry, but what exactly is sexist about trying to get laid? Nothing. The hilarious image of a bunch of brogrammers hitting on their waitresses aside, the issue is that the event effectively excluded women programmers- or at least made it clear that they weren't wanted. Perhaps if the flyer boasted "hot chicks and buff dudes serving you drinks" it might be a little more equal. Horrifying, but equal.
- batista 15y ago

calinet6 15y ago

Even so, when I saw the event and its pathetic attempt to appeal to get some free work done for sponsors, it set off more than one red flag. It wasn't so much the PC-ness as the poor marketing that turned me off.