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They may by safer but as long as there are still humans driving I believe they are not capable of managing perplexing states that humans have no problems dealin

They may by safer but as long as there are still humans driving I believe they are not capable of managing perplexing states that humans have no problems dealing with. I’d not rush the transition to autonomous vehicles. I know there are vested interests to hasten this transition but that’s because it’s all at our cost…

mensetmanusman 3y ago
What if what you believe is true, but that driverless cars are still safer?
idopmstuff 3y ago
> as there are still humans driving I believe they are not capable of managing perplexing states that humans have no problems dealing with I don't understand how you can believe that if you watch a few videos of self-driving cars navigating complex situations. Here's a good one: https://twitter.com/kvogt/status/1641123102858919953 https://twitter.com/kvogt/status/1641123102858919953 They can't do this everywhere or under all conditions, and they still make plenty of mistakes. Still, if a Cruise car can navigate through a crowd of drunks who walking in the street, they're certainly capable of managing complex situations.
- biggc 3y ago
  About halfway through that video the cruise decides that a left turning car is double parked. It goes around the car in the oncoming lane and forces an oncoming car to stop
  - hnben 3y ago
    good catch. The "double parked" car was even using the indicator. still impressive how the car handled the overall situation. I don't think I would have done much better. (except for maybe that single situation you pointed out)
gochi 3y ago
I agree, but not with the second half of your statement regarding perplexing states that humans have no problems dealing with. Humans have a lot of problems dealing with those states! It's why they're so difficult; funny enough a big reason why car insurance is a must but health insurance isn't. It's also why I believe we should aggressively push for driverless ecosystems, as fewer humans actually making decisions on the road = fewer potential problems due to the perplex human states. Of course we are still a long ways from that goal, but it's hard to imagine a future where human drivers are still a thing. Makes more sense for the transportation network to be exclusively driverless and all following the same exact ruleset precisely. Again, thinking long term here not the next 20 years.

mensetmanusman 3y ago

What if what you believe is true, but that driverless cars are still safer?

idopmstuff 3y ago

> as there are still humans driving I believe they are not capable of managing perplexing states that humans have no problems dealing with I don't understand how you can believe that if you watch a few videos of self-driving cars navigating complex situations. Here's a good one: https://twitter.com/kvogt/status/1641123102858919953 https://twitter.com/kvogt/status/1641123102858919953 They can't do this everywhere or under all conditions, and they still make plenty of mistakes. Still, if a Cruise car can navigate through a crowd of drunks who walking in the street, they're certainly capable of managing complex situations.

biggc 3y ago
About halfway through that video the cruise decides that a left turning car is double parked. It goes around the car in the oncoming lane and forces an oncoming car to stop
- hnben 3y ago
  good catch. The "double parked" car was even using the indicator. still impressive how the car handled the overall situation. I don't think I would have done much better. (except for maybe that single situation you pointed out)

gochi 3y ago

I agree, but not with the second half of your statement regarding perplexing states that humans have no problems dealing with. Humans have a lot of problems dealing with those states! It's why they're so difficult; funny enough a big reason why car insurance is a must but health insurance isn't. It's also why I believe we should aggressively push for driverless ecosystems, as fewer humans actually making decisions on the road = fewer potential problems due to the perplex human states. Of course we are still a long ways from that goal, but it's hard to imagine a future where human drivers are still a thing. Makes more sense for the transportation network to be exclusively driverless and all following the same exact ruleset precisely. Again, thinking long term here not the next 20 years.