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Rich SF woman trying to end public pickleball court has one at home

14 points by cdme 3y ago

dimator 3y ago
this is the most San Francisco story ever.
pfannkuchen 3y ago
Is this even hypocritical? Presumably the private court is only used for a game here and there, and does not act as a consistent noise nuisance to neighbors. If the complaint is noise, then it seems fairly apples and oranges.
- User3456335 3y ago
  Yes and if only I were to use the public court then there would be no problem. It's these other people that are using it just as much as me that are the problem!!! The audacity of these people! Don't these people understand that I have nothing to gain from them playing?
- JellyBeanThief 3y ago
  It's not hypocrisy. But what it is is an expression of "got mine, screw you". This person isn't offering to use the sale of their $36 million home to build an indoor court that would solve the noise problem they care about while ensuring the public keeps access to public courts. Instead, their solution is purely destructive: take things away from other people so long as it gets them what they want. And their arguments for wildlife ring hollow, because the energy and materials consumed by 11,000 square foot homes are emphatically not eco-friendly. In the end, this is another example of rich people's disconnection from the rest of society. It doesn't matter to them what other people can't obtain, whether it's luxury or necessity, because they know they'll still be able to get whatever they want or need. Which might not be so bad, but when it's rich people who also choose all the policies that affect other people's lives, then resentment is going to continue to grow.
  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    Are you suggesting that, out of the people a) whose house is adjacent to a pickle ball court and b) who also use that court to play pickle ball, (because they don’t have their own court), most people would choose court convenience over the noise concern and not complain about it because they themselves use the court? It seems like a lot of people would still complain in that case… Everybody wants a dump in town for convenience, but no one wants it next to their house. Everyone wants high voltage power lines to exist because they like electricity, but no one wants them next to their house. This is a very common pattern, and I’m not sure that everyone who does it (i.e. almost everyone) is in the wrong. Any position that puts most people in the wrong is probably wrong (or at least it smells of religion).

14 points by cdme 3y ago

this is the most San Francisco story ever.

Is this even hypocritical? Presumably the private court is only used for a game here and there, and does not act as a consistent noise nuisance to neighbors. If the complaint is noise, then it seems fairly apples and oranges.

User3456335 3y ago
Yes and if only I were to use the public court then there would be no problem. It's these other people that are using it just as much as me that are the problem!!! The audacity of these people! Don't these people understand that I have nothing to gain from them playing?
JellyBeanThief 3y ago
It's not hypocrisy. But what it is is an expression of "got mine, screw you". This person isn't offering to use the sale of their $36 million home to build an indoor court that would solve the noise problem they care about while ensuring the public keeps access to public courts. Instead, their solution is purely destructive: take things away from other people so long as it gets them what they want. And their arguments for wildlife ring hollow, because the energy and materials consumed by 11,000 square foot homes are emphatically not eco-friendly. In the end, this is another example of rich people's disconnection from the rest of society. It doesn't matter to them what other people can't obtain, whether it's luxury or necessity, because they know they'll still be able to get whatever they want or need. Which might not be so bad, but when it's rich people who also choose all the policies that affect other people's lives, then resentment is going to continue to grow.
- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  Are you suggesting that, out of the people a) whose house is adjacent to a pickle ball court and b) who also use that court to play pickle ball, (because they don’t have their own court), most people would choose court convenience over the noise concern and not complain about it because they themselves use the court? It seems like a lot of people would still complain in that case… Everybody wants a dump in town for convenience, but no one wants it next to their house. Everyone wants high voltage power lines to exist because they like electricity, but no one wants them next to their house. This is a very common pattern, and I’m not sure that everyone who does it (i.e. almost everyone) is in the wrong. Any position that puts most people in the wrong is probably wrong (or at least it smells of religion).