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Hopefully nostr will get more of attention too.

by konart 3y ago

jazzyjackson 3y ago
For some reason even as someone hungry for some distributed socializing, I haven't been compelled to try nostr at all. Who hangs out there?
- konart 3y ago
  Well... people? Quite a few of them crypto enthusiasts and sometimes timeline can look like you've come across some crypto scam page, lol. This scares some people. What I like about Nostr is its simplicity comparedy to ActivityPub. The protocol is basically a set of NIPs[1] (Nostr Implementation Possibilities). Each of them describes what features relays and clients may or have to implement. Out of 99 (currently) NIPs only one (NIP 01) is mandatory and around twelwe are stable\final (the other ones are drafs for now). So to create a basic nosrt relay or clien you have to implement a bare minimum of functionality. The way it works: Each user has a public and a private key. Public one is to be shared with other people and can be published online. The Private one is your identity you use to "log in" via nostr client of you choice. As soon as you log in with your private key a client will fetch your notes (and notes of other people you follow if any) from relay(s), assuming you were communicating with these relays before (which will be the case unless you are using more than one client with completely different sets of relays they are talking to). In Nostr a client (a web app, mobile app, cli tool etc) simple publishes notes to N relays and gets\receives notes from them. Quite similar to RSS, except you have more than one RSS agregator and feed is being actively pushed to the said agredgator by "publisher". Also if you are using a client that implemented NIP-72 (like https://satellite.earth/ https://satellite.earth/) you basically get a simple reddit alternative [1]: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips
  - jazzyjackson 3y ago
    Thanks for the reply, that all makes sense. I remember now logging onto it once and seeing a very barebones feed. Not much discovery or anything to play with. I wish it well. I'm trying urbit now which I'm impressed with so far, quite a few applications written on top of it already, people with good taste in music sharing stuff at least. To each 'is own!
    - konart 3y ago
      >Not much discovery or anything to play with. Nosrt will have to find its ways, that for sure. Right not discovery can be done via tags, "trending" topics or people timelines and aggregator clients like https://nostrends.vercel.app/ https://nostrends.vercel.app/ >I'm trying urbit Will look into it, thanks! >music sharing stuff Just for fun: https://www.wavman.app/ https://www.wavman.app/ - a nostr based music player https://stemstr.app/ https://stemstr.app/ - Music collaboration and sharing client for producers and artists, as they describe themselves.
      - jazzyjackson 3y ago
        Nice, thanks. I don't suppose the music is hosted on nostr is it? Urbit seems to prefer pushing everything to s3-compatible buckets (which makes sense if you're already hosting the VM on your VPS, but it's a little dissapointing that the filesystem of this "martian computing" simply takes URLs to external resources, similar problem to not storing large binaries in git) - if I had it my way everything larger than a 4KB text string would be stored as a magnet link to be swarmed by peers but what do I know? :p Just to return the favor re: music, https://www.door.link/ https://www.door.link/ - some mixtapes urbit introduced me to, some more ambient then others, good for reading documentation to :) https://resonate.coop/ https://resonate.coop/ - I learned about this worker/artist/member-owned streaming co-op at an event in SF extolling the virtues of distrubuted cooperatives or "disco's", the description of which may or may not pique your interest: https://disco.coop/2023/06/disco-beats-disco-tech-disco-cats-in-space/ https://disco.coop/2023/06/disco-beats-disco-tech-disco-cats...

Hopefully nostr will get more of attention too.

by konart 3y ago

Hopefully nostr will get more of attention too.

For some reason even as someone hungry for some distributed socializing, I haven't been compelled to try nostr at all. Who hangs out there?

konart 3y ago
Well... people? Quite a few of them crypto enthusiasts and sometimes timeline can look like you've come across some crypto scam page, lol. This scares some people. What I like about Nostr is its simplicity comparedy to ActivityPub. The protocol is basically a set of NIPs[1] (Nostr Implementation Possibilities). Each of them describes what features relays and clients may or have to implement. Out of 99 (currently) NIPs only one (NIP 01) is mandatory and around twelwe are stable\final (the other ones are drafs for now). So to create a basic nosrt relay or clien you have to implement a bare minimum of functionality. The way it works: Each user has a public and a private key. Public one is to be shared with other people and can be published online. The Private one is your identity you use to "log in" via nostr client of you choice. As soon as you log in with your private key a client will fetch your notes (and notes of other people you follow if any) from relay(s), assuming you were communicating with these relays before (which will be the case unless you are using more than one client with completely different sets of relays they are talking to). In Nostr a client (a web app, mobile app, cli tool etc) simple publishes notes to N relays and gets\receives notes from them. Quite similar to RSS, except you have more than one RSS agregator and feed is being actively pushed to the said agredgator by "publisher". Also if you are using a client that implemented NIP-72 (like https://satellite.earth/ https://satellite.earth/) you basically get a simple reddit alternative [1]: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips
- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  Thanks for the reply, that all makes sense. I remember now logging onto it once and seeing a very barebones feed. Not much discovery or anything to play with. I wish it well. I'm trying urbit now which I'm impressed with so far, quite a few applications written on top of it already, people with good taste in music sharing stuff at least. To each 'is own!
  - konart 3y ago
    >Not much discovery or anything to play with. Nosrt will have to find its ways, that for sure. Right not discovery can be done via tags, "trending" topics or people timelines and aggregator clients like https://nostrends.vercel.app/ https://nostrends.vercel.app/ >I'm trying urbit Will look into it, thanks! >music sharing stuff Just for fun: https://www.wavman.app/ https://www.wavman.app/ - a nostr based music player https://stemstr.app/ https://stemstr.app/ - Music collaboration and sharing client for producers and artists, as they describe themselves.
    - jazzyjackson 3y ago
      Nice, thanks. I don't suppose the music is hosted on nostr is it? Urbit seems to prefer pushing everything to s3-compatible buckets (which makes sense if you're already hosting the VM on your VPS, but it's a little dissapointing that the filesystem of this "martian computing" simply takes URLs to external resources, similar problem to not storing large binaries in git) - if I had it my way everything larger than a 4KB text string would be stored as a magnet link to be swarmed by peers but what do I know? :p Just to return the favor re: music, https://www.door.link/ https://www.door.link/ - some mixtapes urbit introduced me to, some more ambient then others, good for reading documentation to :) https://resonate.coop/ https://resonate.coop/ - I learned about this worker/artist/member-owned streaming co-op at an event in SF extolling the virtues of distrubuted cooperatives or "disco's", the description of which may or may not pique your interest: https://disco.coop/2023/06/disco-beats-disco-tech-disco-cats-in-space/ https://disco.coop/2023/06/disco-beats-disco-tech-disco-cats...