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Sadly, we don't live in "a world where people aren't putting pornography on their slide presentations" — we live in a world where it happens pretty regularly. S
by jacobian 15y ago
Sadly, we don't live in "a world where people aren't putting pornography on their slide presentations" — we live in a world where it happens pretty regularly. Sexism is deeply embedded in the culture of the software industry; in that context, there isn't really any such thing as a "harmless joke". These "jokes" continually reinforce the thought that women aren't welcome in our community.
- orblivion 15y agoMaybe the women need to come back and make fun of these people for being shitty at humor. EDIT: I dunno, I'd just hate to have to resort to being uptight as a solution. Plus it could backfire.
- theorique 15y agoThing is, it's not as easy when you already feel a bit marginal. Women are definitely the minority at tech events so 'fighting back' in this way takes a lot of guts. I try to put myself in the mindset as follows: I'm a white guy. If I were in a club that had 90% black patrons and some people were making jokes about 'whitey', I don't know if I'd want to speak up in that environment. Even if the jokes are not intentionally intimidating, and I'm technically 'in the right', it's still going to feel intimidating pushing back and standing out. I imagine it feels similar for a woman in a 90+% male environment pushing back against jokes like this. There's the uncertainty of 'am I overreacting?' and 'how will I be perceived if I push back?' weighed against wanting to speak your piece.
- orblivion 15y agoGreat point. I think it might help if we backed them up in doing this.
- theorique 15y agoAnd thank are due to you and the other organizers for emphasizing that message at PyCon. The recent conference was a great example of treating inclusiveness as the norm.
- theorique 15y agos/thank/thanks/ typos, sigh...