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I think the headline makes this sound more dramatic of a problem than it really is. The real question is whether any of the imperfections will stop buyers. I p

by dangus 3y ago

I think the headline makes this sound more dramatic of a problem than it really is. The real question is whether any of the imperfections will stop buyers. I personally don’t think it will. The kind of person who wants a Cybertruck has their mind made up. People buy rustic chic gear all the time. I also think that it wouldn’t be that hard for Tesla to make a non-stainless version in the future. Maybe I’m naive about the manufacturing process but I don’t think that would constitute “starting over.” Or you can just get a vinyl wrap, which barely costs more than a typical paint upgrade.

doctorpangloss 3y ago
hmm, do you think a lucrative vehicle is like a lucrative video game, which recoups all its costs in the first week? Or do you think it's like the other kind of lucrative video game, that was made very cheaply and is continuously delivered very slowly over time, usually for free, monetizing a very small number of very strange people? A flawed vehicle is neither of these. It is really expensive to make, and must recoup its costs over a very long period of time, where the 100,000th buyer will have all the wisdom from the previous 99,999 buyers.
- dangus 3y ago
  I think that customers very regularly buy flawed vehicles. Some of the most consistently popular SUVs and trucks are have had pretty low build quality for long stretches. Jeep Grand Cherokee, Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler… It’s not like the biggest selling trucks are known for build quality. It’s Ford, GM, and Dodge we are talking about here. Hell, Tesla’s existing lineup’s build quality is a running joke, that hasn’t stopped them from selling a lot of vehicles. The article is bringing up a legitimate issue but I just don’t think it will matter for sales. The cyberbro demographic cares about panel gaps as much as the typical Escalade buyer. The electric truck market in this price range is basically just the F-150, and while we don’t know the Cybertruck’s price, I think it’s going to launch in a way that is very cognizant of the street price of the F-150 and well below the Rivian R1T.

by dangus 3y ago

doctorpangloss 3y ago

hmm, do you think a lucrative vehicle is like a lucrative video game, which recoups all its costs in the first week? Or do you think it's like the other kind of lucrative video game, that was made very cheaply and is continuously delivered very slowly over time, usually for free, monetizing a very small number of very strange people? A flawed vehicle is neither of these. It is really expensive to make, and must recoup its costs over a very long period of time, where the 100,000th buyer will have all the wisdom from the previous 99,999 buyers.

dangus 3y ago
I think that customers very regularly buy flawed vehicles. Some of the most consistently popular SUVs and trucks are have had pretty low build quality for long stretches. Jeep Grand Cherokee, Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler… It’s not like the biggest selling trucks are known for build quality. It’s Ford, GM, and Dodge we are talking about here. Hell, Tesla’s existing lineup’s build quality is a running joke, that hasn’t stopped them from selling a lot of vehicles. The article is bringing up a legitimate issue but I just don’t think it will matter for sales. The cyberbro demographic cares about panel gaps as much as the typical Escalade buyer. The electric truck market in this price range is basically just the F-150, and while we don’t know the Cybertruck’s price, I think it’s going to launch in a way that is very cognizant of the street price of the F-150 and well below the Rivian R1T.