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> I like Teams I believe this may be the first time I've heard anyone say that.

sebzim4500 3y ago
I haven't used it myself, but I've heard lots of non-tech people say they like it. I think they are probably comparing it to skype/email rather than to slack.
- jimnotgym 3y ago
  I like it because of the deep integration with Office
  - olig15 3y ago
    I actually dislike Teams because of the Office integration. Teams where I work ends up with 10’s of ‘teams’ with 100’s of channels. Each channel having its own set of documents that have been uploaded and added as tabs to a channel. It’s impossible to find anything, but even when you do, you end up with a half broken version of web word or excel that fills the page so you can’t chat anymore. I’d rather teams did 2 (albeit complex) things; Direct & Channel chats (with one or more people), and video calls with one or many people. If I want to use Office, I’ll use the right app. It feels like Teams is trying to do too many things, and it’s bad at all of them.
    - jimnotgym 3y ago
      That sounds like a problem of bad management rather than Teams' fault! It doesn't make you start lots of Teams or channels! I sync my files from Teams using OneDrive, and then they open in the desktop apps...and work like a regular folder in Windows
esperent 3y ago
I also like Teams, clunkiness aside it's a great business asset for the price. Unmatched at even double or triple the price by anything else out there I think. However, I've only been using it for six months. So maybe it used to be worse and that's where all the hate comes from? Also, most of the clunkiness seems to hit me the worst as the admin and sole tech person at our company. The rest of that users seem to be doing just fine.
- miked85 3y ago
  For me at least, it seems fairly unintuitive and primitive vs Slack or even various open source options (Mattermost, Zulip). It feels like a product where Microsoft just did the bare minimum to claim they have a competitor in this area.
giancarlostoro 3y ago
It is nicely integrated wit (not in all but good enough amount of) Microsoft's ecosystem. If you're a Microsoft shop (we've got plenty of .NET, Azure, Azure DevOps, M365, etc) then its also a no-brainer. It could use with some polish, but my biggest peeve is where chats are housed. How can I have a "Team" space and no dedicated chat for it? Makes zero sense to me. At least give me ONE "General Chat" at a minimum. It smoothly integrates back with Outlook, the experience is slightly different, but we have all our meetings over Teams, and the call quality is always great. If you ever have network issues, it suggests calling into the meeting on a land line, which is a small but really nice thing, even sometimes when watching a screenshare it offers listening from a land line whilst watching from your computer in order to cut down on data. Teams has an insane amount of potential for complete greatness, but given how Windows itself does as well and it gets overshadowed by marketing decisions that anger power users, I'm not holding my breath on Teams achieving what it could. The infrastructures all there, and it is insanely extensible.

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard lots of non-tech people say they like it. I think they are probably comparing it to skype/email rather than to slack.

jimnotgym 3y ago
I like it because of the deep integration with Office
- olig15 3y ago
  I actually dislike Teams because of the Office integration. Teams where I work ends up with 10’s of ‘teams’ with 100’s of channels. Each channel having its own set of documents that have been uploaded and added as tabs to a channel. It’s impossible to find anything, but even when you do, you end up with a half broken version of web word or excel that fills the page so you can’t chat anymore. I’d rather teams did 2 (albeit complex) things; Direct & Channel chats (with one or more people), and video calls with one or many people. If I want to use Office, I’ll use the right app. It feels like Teams is trying to do too many things, and it’s bad at all of them.
  - jimnotgym 3y ago
    That sounds like a problem of bad management rather than Teams' fault! It doesn't make you start lots of Teams or channels! I sync my files from Teams using OneDrive, and then they open in the desktop apps...and work like a regular folder in Windows

esperent 3y ago

I also like Teams, clunkiness aside it's a great business asset for the price. Unmatched at even double or triple the price by anything else out there I think. However, I've only been using it for six months. So maybe it used to be worse and that's where all the hate comes from? Also, most of the clunkiness seems to hit me the worst as the admin and sole tech person at our company. The rest of that users seem to be doing just fine.

miked85 3y ago
For me at least, it seems fairly unintuitive and primitive vs Slack or even various open source options (Mattermost, Zulip). It feels like a product where Microsoft just did the bare minimum to claim they have a competitor in this area.

giancarlostoro 3y ago

It is nicely integrated wit (not in all but good enough amount of) Microsoft's ecosystem. If you're a Microsoft shop (we've got plenty of .NET, Azure, Azure DevOps, M365, etc) then its also a no-brainer. It could use with some polish, but my biggest peeve is where chats are housed. How can I have a "Team" space and no dedicated chat for it? Makes zero sense to me. At least give me ONE "General Chat" at a minimum. It smoothly integrates back with Outlook, the experience is slightly different, but we have all our meetings over Teams, and the call quality is always great. If you ever have network issues, it suggests calling into the meeting on a land line, which is a small but really nice thing, even sometimes when watching a screenshare it offers listening from a land line whilst watching from your computer in order to cut down on data. Teams has an insane amount of potential for complete greatness, but given how Windows itself does as well and it gets overshadowed by marketing decisions that anger power users, I'm not holding my breath on Teams achieving what it could. The infrastructures all there, and it is insanely extensible.