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Don't blame them. Blame the people who buy their products and enable them. Who does this? You, me, all of us. The story of the end wasn't about shell or oil c

Don't blame them. Blame the people who buy their products and enable them. Who does this? You, me, all of us. The story of the end wasn't about shell or oil companies. It's about us and our own incompetence at stopping ourselves.

kjkjadksj 3y ago
The consumer is only capable of choosing among options capital has made available in the market. Placing the blame on them misses how the system works. The idea of consumers having a choice is an illusion created by marketing to make consumers feel like they have some free will in their actions.
- corethree 3y ago
  Do you work for a corporation? Most likely you do. What is a corporation made up of but the people themselves? We all have a choice. It's just a hard choice that you are not willing to make. You aren't willing to sacrifice. If the corporation made the choice for you, you'd still be paying the same cost. It's no different. You either stop buying oil or they stop selling oil to you. It's just a blame game your playing with no solution.
  - GenericPoster 3y ago
    I appreciate the idealism but that's an incredibly naive take. The idea of "just walk" or "just ride a bike" or "just move" or "just grow your own food" is nonsensical when talking about US infrastructure. Humans have limits and those that are at the bottom of the economic status, the ones who would be affected the most don't need another self imposed hurdle. Their lives are already hard enough as it is. There was a solution and it involved beating the corporations into submission before they ever amassed such a massive amount of power. This idea of endless growth needed to be stopped and society needed to transition to a more sustainable way of living. But it's honestly too late. Corporations are made up of people but those people aren't in control. The most impactful action that a single person can take is to not have children. Let the population drop and kill all demand. Thankfully cooperations are making this choice easier than ever.
    - corethree 3y ago
      This isn't idealism. You're the one that's idealistic. I'm saying nobody will make the right choice. Not even you or me. None of us has the fortitude to do what it takes and therefore most likely the worst case scenario for global warming will play out. It's the idealists who make up alternative stories to blame other entities other then themselves. It's the idealists who think there's a solution. There is a solution but that solution is so impractical it's basically no solution.

kjkjadksj 3y ago

The consumer is only capable of choosing among options capital has made available in the market. Placing the blame on them misses how the system works. The idea of consumers having a choice is an illusion created by marketing to make consumers feel like they have some free will in their actions.

corethree 3y ago
Do you work for a corporation? Most likely you do. What is a corporation made up of but the people themselves? We all have a choice. It's just a hard choice that you are not willing to make. You aren't willing to sacrifice. If the corporation made the choice for you, you'd still be paying the same cost. It's no different. You either stop buying oil or they stop selling oil to you. It's just a blame game your playing with no solution.
- GenericPoster 3y ago
  I appreciate the idealism but that's an incredibly naive take. The idea of "just walk" or "just ride a bike" or "just move" or "just grow your own food" is nonsensical when talking about US infrastructure. Humans have limits and those that are at the bottom of the economic status, the ones who would be affected the most don't need another self imposed hurdle. Their lives are already hard enough as it is. There was a solution and it involved beating the corporations into submission before they ever amassed such a massive amount of power. This idea of endless growth needed to be stopped and society needed to transition to a more sustainable way of living. But it's honestly too late. Corporations are made up of people but those people aren't in control. The most impactful action that a single person can take is to not have children. Let the population drop and kill all demand. Thankfully cooperations are making this choice easier than ever.
  - corethree 3y ago
    This isn't idealism. You're the one that's idealistic. I'm saying nobody will make the right choice. Not even you or me. None of us has the fortitude to do what it takes and therefore most likely the worst case scenario for global warming will play out. It's the idealists who make up alternative stories to blame other entities other then themselves. It's the idealists who think there's a solution. There is a solution but that solution is so impractical it's basically no solution.