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On the other hand, HM Passport Office absolutely loves titles: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-in-passports https://www.gov.uk/gover

On the other hand, HM Passport Office absolutely loves titles: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-in-passports https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-i... My personal favourite is if you change your first name to “Sir” and you are not actually a “Knight”, then you get the note “THE REFERENCE TO SIR IS TO THE HOLDER’S NAME AND NOT TO THE HOLDER’S TITLE” printed in your passport. Context: I wanted “Dr.” to be added to my passport.

OJFord 3y ago
That seems good though, you want people checking it in an airport or whatever to get it right, believe that's your name, not insist that your name is just middle-last because the first (Sir) is honourific.
scarby2 3y ago
You also get this with Lord and I'd assume Baron, count, Duke, viscount or their feminine equivalents. I do wonder what would happen if I used a tile that was not used in the UK.
- coldacid 3y ago
  Move to Britain, change your given name to Graf (that's German for the title of count/earl), and get a passport. I'm curious to see what the result would be, myself.
  - amiga386 3y ago
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-in-passports/titles-accessible https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-i... If you set your title to "Graf" in the passport form: > By Royal Warrant of 27 April 1932, the use in England and Wales of foreign titles of nobility was discontinued. > You must include the observation: THE HOLDER IS ALSO KNOWN AS (foreign title). If you instead set your given name to "Graf", these instructions would not apply, as you are not claiming it's your title. Nor would it be evident to the passport office or any other English speaker that your given name implied a title, so provided your supporting documents corroborate that "Graf" is your given name, they'd issue a passport in that name. However, if you used not "Graf", but a title recognised in the English language: > A person may call themselves any name they want, as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes > You may receive an application supported by documents (for example, a birth certificate or a change of name deed) that shows a customer is using a name that includes a description of a title (for example, Lord, Princess, Earl or Baron as a forename). > You must include the observation: THE REFERENCE TO (description of title) IS TO THE HOLDER’S NAME AND NOT TO THE HOLDER’S TITLE.
  - tomjakubowski 3y ago
    How about just changing your name to Earl?
    - coldacid 3y ago
      Already (implicitly) mentioned in the gp.

OJFord 3y ago

That seems good though, you want people checking it in an airport or whatever to get it right, believe that's your name, not insist that your name is just middle-last because the first (Sir) is honourific.

scarby2 3y ago

You also get this with Lord and I'd assume Baron, count, Duke, viscount or their feminine equivalents. I do wonder what would happen if I used a tile that was not used in the UK.

coldacid 3y ago
Move to Britain, change your given name to Graf (that's German for the title of count/earl), and get a passport. I'm curious to see what the result would be, myself.
- amiga386 3y ago
  https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-in-passports/titles-accessible https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/titles-included-i... If you set your title to "Graf" in the passport form: > By Royal Warrant of 27 April 1932, the use in England and Wales of foreign titles of nobility was discontinued. > You must include the observation: THE HOLDER IS ALSO KNOWN AS (foreign title). If you instead set your given name to "Graf", these instructions would not apply, as you are not claiming it's your title. Nor would it be evident to the passport office or any other English speaker that your given name implied a title, so provided your supporting documents corroborate that "Graf" is your given name, they'd issue a passport in that name. However, if you used not "Graf", but a title recognised in the English language: > A person may call themselves any name they want, as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes > You may receive an application supported by documents (for example, a birth certificate or a change of name deed) that shows a customer is using a name that includes a description of a title (for example, Lord, Princess, Earl or Baron as a forename). > You must include the observation: THE REFERENCE TO (description of title) IS TO THE HOLDER’S NAME AND NOT TO THE HOLDER’S TITLE.
- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  How about just changing your name to Earl?
  - coldacid 3y ago
    Already (implicitly) mentioned in the gp.