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Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. Even discord is way better than slack.

fknorangesite 3y ago
> Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. For better or for worse, Slack has a huge UI overhaul right around the corner: https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built-for-focus https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built...
yellow_lead 3y ago
Discord threads seem worse though, or maybe I'm using them wrongly.
bombolo 3y ago
I thought slack harmed itself ditching IRC bridge.
jkaplowitz 3y ago
Slack cares less about their stagnation now that they are part of Salesforce than they did when they were independent.
dewey 3y ago
Not sure I want a tool I use all day to evolve very quickly and change much, I don't really feel like there's some big missing features that would change things dramatically. No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment.
- draugadrotten 3y ago
  > No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment. The current crop of students are all using Discord to collaborate during lab work. Wait 2-3 years until they are team leaders at work and there will be Discords everywhere. I can promise you every Fortune 500 already is using Discord in production, just as they are using generative AI.
  - formerly_proven 3y ago
    Well if Discord offers an Enterprise version that's tied into the tenant's SSO at least it becomes possible to create an account. Or maybe they'll instantly lock those, too?
  - moojd 3y ago
    Enterprise discord is one of those obviously inevitable things that I can't believe doesn't exist yet
drewg123 3y ago
They are worse than stagnant. They just took away what I (and a lot of my coworkers) feel was an important feature -- the ability to leave a thread open as you change to a different channel or DM. From my perspective stagnant would be better than taking away useful features.
- ballenf 3y ago
  Teams chat has long had an obvious and fundamental feature -- ability to open a thread or conversation in a new window. And have as many of those open as you need. Slack, by design, makes it painful to engage in more than one conversation at a time. It's so annoying to maintain a "save for later" list of things you need to come back to, or mark things as unread. You can do this with slack by using the web client, but that has its own annoyances with not being a native application.
  - drewg123 3y ago
    I'd never know. Slack does not natively support my platform (FreeBSD), so I use the web client.
  - pmontra 3y ago
    If the Slack desktop app had a way to open a workspace in a new window I'd put the Slack window of each of my customers in the virtual desktop of that customer instead of having to move Slack to the workspace of the moment. Except for that, they could stagnate. For example, what the huddles were for? Did I miss any new functionality that they added to the old calls?
    - no_wizard 3y ago
      Key difference with huddles is you can join in on one without an invite. Previous calls required you to call in the participants. Its an attempt at making something an open office / standing room type situation so people can wander in and out of huddles to check in with folks. In practice, I don't see it used much. Everyone wants to setup a Zoom call.
littlestymaar 3y ago
I hate Slack with passion[1], but it's not a good excuse for Microsoft doing shady stuff with their monopoly position with Office. [1] mostly because it's slow, their UX is clunky as hell, and it still doesn't support audio/video calls on Firefox despite WebRTC being supported there since 2015.
kwanbix 3y ago
Slack is crazy expensive. 15 euros per user! Make it 5 and I might consider it.
dathinab 3y ago
discord is actually really good in a lot of stuff just not at looking appealing to companies I mean they have: - good chat - new okayish forum feature - pretty good video calls (better then Teams AFIK) - many of the same misc features - good probably better moderation features then slack - a nice balance between convenience and security wrt. their login - ways to ad good code highlighting for a lot of programming languages - somewhat okayish (AFIK better then modern slack) accessibility features it's just that all of this features are tweaked with small to mid sized hobby communities in mind instead of companies

> Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. For better or for worse, Slack has a huge UI overhaul right around the corner: https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built-for-focus https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built...

yellow_lead 3y ago

Discord threads seem worse though, or maybe I'm using them wrongly.

bombolo 3y ago

I thought slack harmed itself ditching IRC bridge.

jkaplowitz 3y ago

Slack cares less about their stagnation now that they are part of Salesforce than they did when they were independent.

dewey 3y ago

Not sure I want a tool I use all day to evolve very quickly and change much, I don't really feel like there's some big missing features that would change things dramatically. No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment.

draugadrotten 3y ago
> No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment. The current crop of students are all using Discord to collaborate during lab work. Wait 2-3 years until they are team leaders at work and there will be Discords everywhere. I can promise you every Fortune 500 already is using Discord in production, just as they are using generative AI.
- formerly_proven 3y ago
  Well if Discord offers an Enterprise version that's tied into the tenant's SSO at least it becomes possible to create an account. Or maybe they'll instantly lock those, too?
- moojd 3y ago
  Enterprise discord is one of those obviously inevitable things that I can't believe doesn't exist yet

drewg123 3y ago

They are worse than stagnant. They just took away what I (and a lot of my coworkers) feel was an important feature -- the ability to leave a thread open as you change to a different channel or DM. From my perspective stagnant would be better than taking away useful features.

ballenf 3y ago
Teams chat has long had an obvious and fundamental feature -- ability to open a thread or conversation in a new window. And have as many of those open as you need. Slack, by design, makes it painful to engage in more than one conversation at a time. It's so annoying to maintain a "save for later" list of things you need to come back to, or mark things as unread. You can do this with slack by using the web client, but that has its own annoyances with not being a native application.
- drewg123 3y ago
  I'd never know. Slack does not natively support my platform (FreeBSD), so I use the web client.
- pmontra 3y ago
  If the Slack desktop app had a way to open a workspace in a new window I'd put the Slack window of each of my customers in the virtual desktop of that customer instead of having to move Slack to the workspace of the moment. Except for that, they could stagnate. For example, what the huddles were for? Did I miss any new functionality that they added to the old calls?
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    Key difference with huddles is you can join in on one without an invite. Previous calls required you to call in the participants. Its an attempt at making something an open office / standing room type situation so people can wander in and out of huddles to check in with folks. In practice, I don't see it used much. Everyone wants to setup a Zoom call.

littlestymaar 3y ago

I hate Slack with passion[1], but it's not a good excuse for Microsoft doing shady stuff with their monopoly position with Office. [1] mostly because it's slow, their UX is clunky as hell, and it still doesn't support audio/video calls on Firefox despite WebRTC being supported there since 2015.

kwanbix 3y ago

Slack is crazy expensive. 15 euros per user! Make it 5 and I might consider it.

dathinab 3y ago

discord is actually really good in a lot of stuff just not at looking appealing to companies I mean they have: - good chat - new okayish forum feature - pretty good video calls (better then Teams AFIK) - many of the same misc features - good probably better moderation features then slack - a nice balance between convenience and security wrt. their login - ways to ad good code highlighting for a lot of programming languages - somewhat okayish (AFIK better then modern slack) accessibility features it's just that all of this features are tweaked with small to mid sized hobby communities in mind instead of companies