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And now that Microsoft has stolen a bunch of customer to Slack through their anti competitive practice, they are now making this move to avoid lawsuit, even tho

And now that Microsoft has stolen a bunch of customer to Slack through their anti competitive practice, they are now making this move to avoid lawsuit, even though the harm is already done…

adhvaryu 3y ago
Why do you think zoom got popular?
- janandonly 3y ago
  For one thing: more than 120000 congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide started paying for a Zoom account in early 2020. As far as I know, most of these congregations still pay for Zoom accounts until now.
  - vxNsr 3y ago
    interestingly, they probably all qualify for NFP grants that could significantly reduce their costs
- Spooky23 3y ago
  Zoom is basically a respin of WebEx. Teams is a bunch of modules bolted on to SharePoint and Exchange. A “team” is an exchange artifact, the voice and video is a module and the rest is a SharePoint front end. Zoom is a better value if you need features beyond the base teams. You pay a simple fee and get the whole shebang. With Teams, you may need different SKUs, including Azure AD, etc to get the full feature set. It’s a funnel to E5.
- nicoburns 3y ago
  Zoom got popular by being technically superior (better call quality) during a pandemic when the entire world suddenly needed video conferencing.
  - SmarsJerry 3y ago
    Call quality was not the factor. It was that zoom was easy for people to use, no download required, just click a link and enter your name and you’re connected. No logins or downloads so old people could actually work with it.
    - johannes1234321 3y ago
      I never used the zoom web version, but for the client: it simply worked. Getting videocalls with WebEx always was a pain, where it was noisy, video hat issues ... switching to Zoom was day and night. Suddenly doing a video call was a click and it worked.
CrimsonRain 3y ago
Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. Even discord is way better than slack.
- fknorangesite 3y ago
  > Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. For better or for worse, Slack has a huge UI overhaul right around the corner: https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built-for-focus https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built...
- yellow_lead 3y ago
  Discord threads seem worse though, or maybe I'm using them wrongly.
- bombolo 3y ago
  I thought slack harmed itself ditching IRC bridge.
- jkaplowitz 3y ago
  Slack cares less about their stagnation now that they are part of Salesforce than they did when they were independent.
- dewey 3y ago
  Not sure I want a tool I use all day to evolve very quickly and change much, I don't really feel like there's some big missing features that would change things dramatically. No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment.
  - draugadrotten 3y ago
    > No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment. The current crop of students are all using Discord to collaborate during lab work. Wait 2-3 years until they are team leaders at work and there will be Discords everywhere. I can promise you every Fortune 500 already is using Discord in production, just as they are using generative AI.

And now that Microsoft has stolen a bunch of customer to Slack through their anti competitive practice, they are now making this move to avoid lawsuit, even though the harm is already done…

adhvaryu 3y ago

Why do you think zoom got popular?

janandonly 3y ago
For one thing: more than 120000 congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide started paying for a Zoom account in early 2020. As far as I know, most of these congregations still pay for Zoom accounts until now.
- vxNsr 3y ago
  interestingly, they probably all qualify for NFP grants that could significantly reduce their costs
Spooky23 3y ago
Zoom is basically a respin of WebEx. Teams is a bunch of modules bolted on to SharePoint and Exchange. A “team” is an exchange artifact, the voice and video is a module and the rest is a SharePoint front end. Zoom is a better value if you need features beyond the base teams. You pay a simple fee and get the whole shebang. With Teams, you may need different SKUs, including Azure AD, etc to get the full feature set. It’s a funnel to E5.
nicoburns 3y ago
Zoom got popular by being technically superior (better call quality) during a pandemic when the entire world suddenly needed video conferencing.
- SmarsJerry 3y ago
  Call quality was not the factor. It was that zoom was easy for people to use, no download required, just click a link and enter your name and you’re connected. No logins or downloads so old people could actually work with it.
  - johannes1234321 3y ago
    I never used the zoom web version, but for the client: it simply worked. Getting videocalls with WebEx always was a pain, where it was noisy, video hat issues ... switching to Zoom was day and night. Suddenly doing a video call was a click and it worked.

CrimsonRain 3y ago

Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. Even discord is way better than slack.

fknorangesite 3y ago
> Slack is harming itself more by being stagnant. For better or for worse, Slack has a huge UI overhaul right around the corner: https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built-for-focus https://slack.com/blog/productivity/a-redesigned-slack-built...
yellow_lead 3y ago
Discord threads seem worse though, or maybe I'm using them wrongly.
bombolo 3y ago
I thought slack harmed itself ditching IRC bridge.
jkaplowitz 3y ago
Slack cares less about their stagnation now that they are part of Salesforce than they did when they were independent.
dewey 3y ago
Not sure I want a tool I use all day to evolve very quickly and change much, I don't really feel like there's some big missing features that would change things dramatically. No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment.
- draugadrotten 3y ago
  > No business is going to use Discord in a corporate environment. The current crop of students are all using Discord to collaborate during lab work. Wait 2-3 years until they are team leaders at work and there will be Discords everywhere. I can promise you every Fortune 500 already is using Discord in production, just as they are using generative AI.