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UTM is great, and once snapshot capability is added [1] it will become my default recommendation for sure. Until then sticking with Parallels. NOTE: An unoffici

by chkhd 3y ago

UTM is great, and once snapshot capability is added [1] it will become my default recommendation for sure. Until then sticking with Parallels. NOTE: An unofficial snapshot manager exists [2]. 1: https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/5484 https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/5484 2: https://github.com/Metamogul/UTM-Snapshot-Manager https://github.com/Metamogul/UTM-Snapshot-Manager

plorkyeran 3y ago
Hah, I was going to say that I've successfully faked a limited form of snapshots using clonefile, and then turns out that's what the implementation-in-progress is doing.
princevegeta89 3y ago
As someone who would always practice the habit of doing development within VMs as opposed to my actual system for a number of reasons, I tried UTM and played with it for a long time to host ARM64 Linux VMs on my M1 Macbook Pro, however the file sharing issues plagued me - with the most common problem being, having my shared folders disappear suddenly from the guest VMs, and having to do workarounds to get them back, quite often. Next, I tried VMWare Fusion, but it has the same problem. After that I tried Parallels, which seemed too expensive, so I jumped to Lima. I am glad to have found Lima - it also is based on QEMU and made bringing up linux VMs very easy and provided network sharing out of the box. Now all my development lies within these Lima VMs and I am happy to report I never had a problem. I know I could do display forwarding if needed but I am good with these headless instances for now (thanks to VSCode).
- dingi 3y ago
  I've been using a similar setup for a while now. I just use SFTP for file sharing. Never bothered to try UTM's file sharing feature.
  - princevegeta89 3y ago
    While this is a good alternative, some tools like git clients and other things that I run on the host system can't be worked out via SFTP
    - learn_more 3y ago
      Use sshfs.
- naikrovek 3y ago
  this seems like a perfect use case for NFS. zero network problems to mess with anything (because it's a virtual network between host and VM), it's very easy to set up, and it should be quite fast indeed. 9p would be another option, I suppose, though I don't know of any 9p servers for MacOS.
naikrovek 3y ago
APFS supports copy on write snapshots today, for any filetype. I would think that snapshot features in UTM would simply wrap that functionality. as simple as `cp -c` though if that were true, I guess it would be implemented already.
greggsy 3y ago
Does it support TPM emulation, and ansible/vagrabt?
- galleywest200 3y ago
  Looks like they added TPM just last month: https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/3082 https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/3082

by chkhd 3y ago

plorkyeran 3y ago

Hah, I was going to say that I've successfully faked a limited form of snapshots using clonefile, and then turns out that's what the implementation-in-progress is doing.

princevegeta89 3y ago

As someone who would always practice the habit of doing development within VMs as opposed to my actual system for a number of reasons, I tried UTM and played with it for a long time to host ARM64 Linux VMs on my M1 Macbook Pro, however the file sharing issues plagued me - with the most common problem being, having my shared folders disappear suddenly from the guest VMs, and having to do workarounds to get them back, quite often. Next, I tried VMWare Fusion, but it has the same problem. After that I tried Parallels, which seemed too expensive, so I jumped to Lima. I am glad to have found Lima - it also is based on QEMU and made bringing up linux VMs very easy and provided network sharing out of the box. Now all my development lies within these Lima VMs and I am happy to report I never had a problem. I know I could do display forwarding if needed but I am good with these headless instances for now (thanks to VSCode).

dingi 3y ago
I've been using a similar setup for a while now. I just use SFTP for file sharing. Never bothered to try UTM's file sharing feature.
- princevegeta89 3y ago
  While this is a good alternative, some tools like git clients and other things that I run on the host system can't be worked out via SFTP
  - learn_more 3y ago
    Use sshfs.
naikrovek 3y ago
this seems like a perfect use case for NFS. zero network problems to mess with anything (because it's a virtual network between host and VM), it's very easy to set up, and it should be quite fast indeed. 9p would be another option, I suppose, though I don't know of any 9p servers for MacOS.

naikrovek 3y ago

APFS supports copy on write snapshots today, for any filetype. I would think that snapshot features in UTM would simply wrap that functionality. as simple as `cp -c` though if that were true, I guess it would be implemented already.

greggsy 3y ago

Does it support TPM emulation, and ansible/vagrabt?

galleywest200 3y ago
Looks like they added TPM just last month: https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/3082 https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/3082