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I used this a couple of weeks ago to install Windows 11 ARM on macOS (Ventura on a new M2), looking to replace Fusion. It was disappointing: * Integration tool

I used this a couple of weeks ago to install Windows 11 ARM on macOS (Ventura on a new M2), looking to replace Fusion. It was disappointing: * Integration tools like copy/paste between VM and host, or file sharing, didn't work * Graphics constantly glitched, often going to a grey screen. There seemed no way to recover, and I had to force restart the VM The drivers / assistant tools have a 2012 date on them. I'm aware it's a free product and I have no right to expect anything (and I don't; I went back to Fusion.) And perhaps the situation would improve if I or others financially supported the project, which seems a better response to issues :) Nevertheless I went in hoping I could replace the commercial VM solutions, which on Mac have required yearly updates that deliver almost no new value, with something open source -- and I can't yet.

donatj 3y ago
Copy paste definitely works. I go back and forth all day. Did you install the SPICE tools? https://docs.getutm.app/guest-support/windows/#windows-xp-and-higher https://docs.getutm.app/guest-support/windows/#windows-xp-an... I've also not seen any graphical errors, I'm not trying to play games though. I just use it for basic desktop apps.
- vintagedave 3y ago
  I did install them. I noticed they had a 2012 date, which surprised me. Maybe the wrong ones are available?
eppsilon 3y ago
Do you have copy-paste and shared folders working in Fusion (with a Windows ARM VM)? Last I checked VMware Tools did not support those features yet. Edit: The Fusion 2023 Tech Preview [1] installs the full VMware Tools and supports copy-paste. 1. https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/get-download?downloadGroup=FUS-TP2023 https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/get-download?do...
kim0 3y ago
Maybe connecting through MS RDP tool would offer a better UX
illiac786 3y ago
How can you go back to Fusion on Apple silicon? No copy paste, no display scaling, no file share... It's horrible.
- vintagedave 3y ago
  I'm using the Fusion 13 Tech Preview, which has all of those bar file sharing, so I'm just using git to transfer :) It has one glitch where the screen goes black sometimes when changing apps (maybe a new DirectX context or something), but that's easy to resolve by just resizing the window a few pixels to change the VM resolution. I usually use my VMs fullscreen so this is a slight adjustment to normal, but it's workable until they release Fusion 13's official version.
  - itsTyrion 3y ago
    Wdym you’re using git?
fellowmartian 3y ago
I use it as a really nice qemu wrapper, and if you treat it as one it’s amazing.
- cyberpunk 3y ago
  But you can't edit any of the qemu arguments? I wanted to run some risv emulation, and I need to remove some device from the default args UTM has, and nope. Not editable. Unless I'm missing something..
  - t8sr 3y ago
    I think the VM has to be switched off, not just suspended for the arguments to be editable. There are also some flags that UTM insists on and won't let you remove, which actually seems kind of reasonable - QEMU is really low-level and it's possible to run it in modes where UTM won't be able to connect to it.
runxel 3y ago
That's of no surprise, because OpenGL does not work. Pretty useless, considering how many apps use that nowadays.

donatj 3y ago

Copy paste definitely works. I go back and forth all day. Did you install the SPICE tools? https://docs.getutm.app/guest-support/windows/#windows-xp-and-higher https://docs.getutm.app/guest-support/windows/#windows-xp-an... I've also not seen any graphical errors, I'm not trying to play games though. I just use it for basic desktop apps.

vintagedave 3y ago
I did install them. I noticed they had a 2012 date, which surprised me. Maybe the wrong ones are available?

eppsilon 3y ago

Do you have copy-paste and shared folders working in Fusion (with a Windows ARM VM)? Last I checked VMware Tools did not support those features yet. Edit: The Fusion 2023 Tech Preview [1] installs the full VMware Tools and supports copy-paste. 1. https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/get-download?downloadGroup=FUS-TP2023 https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/get-download?do...

kim0 3y ago

Maybe connecting through MS RDP tool would offer a better UX

illiac786 3y ago

How can you go back to Fusion on Apple silicon? No copy paste, no display scaling, no file share... It's horrible.

vintagedave 3y ago
I'm using the Fusion 13 Tech Preview, which has all of those bar file sharing, so I'm just using git to transfer :) It has one glitch where the screen goes black sometimes when changing apps (maybe a new DirectX context or something), but that's easy to resolve by just resizing the window a few pixels to change the VM resolution. I usually use my VMs fullscreen so this is a slight adjustment to normal, but it's workable until they release Fusion 13's official version.
- itsTyrion 3y ago
  Wdym you’re using git?

fellowmartian 3y ago

I use it as a really nice qemu wrapper, and if you treat it as one it’s amazing.

cyberpunk 3y ago
But you can't edit any of the qemu arguments? I wanted to run some risv emulation, and I need to remove some device from the default args UTM has, and nope. Not editable. Unless I'm missing something..
- t8sr 3y ago
  I think the VM has to be switched off, not just suspended for the arguments to be editable. There are also some flags that UTM insists on and won't let you remove, which actually seems kind of reasonable - QEMU is really low-level and it's possible to run it in modes where UTM won't be able to connect to it.

runxel 3y ago

That's of no surprise, because OpenGL does not work. Pretty useless, considering how many apps use that nowadays.