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The goal is to prevent resale to China. That goal is impossible, but this would add an extra step in their view and draws a clear line in the proverbial sand. A

The goal is to prevent resale to China. That goal is impossible, but this would add an extra step in their view and draws a clear line in the proverbial sand. Also pretty sure they mean "political" and not "regional" middle East, so Israel wouldn't be banned. I do feel bad for the researchers and techs over there with legitimate needs for these GPUs

bushbaba 3y ago
Those researchers likely can still use public cloud environments. Many middle eastern companies have a U.S. branch
slim 3y ago
It just means China has to buy them from Israeli companies. Watch exponential growth of H100 consumption in Israel ;-)
prmoustache 3y ago
> Also pretty sure they mean "political" and not "regional" middle East, so Israel wouldn't be banned. I am not sure there is a clear definition of that. But yes for some reason Israel and Turkia compete in Eurovision while Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt while these are also members of the UER. Sounds to me like the definition is more about the religion and language than political.| Having said that I checked again and Israel is not Middle-East, nor is Middle-East a real geographical area. For example according to wikipedia Egypt and Turkey are considered middle-east while Israel/Jordan/Syria/Lebanon are considered West Asia. Despite the fact that Egypt is more in the West than these 4 countries. We also make a strange distinction between Central-Asia and Middle-East which semantically should mean the same thing. All this to say that the title of the article and the umbrella word "Middle-East" should stop being used and governments as well as news outlets should be more specific.
- passwordoops 3y ago
  It is funny how the term persisted considering the use of Near and Far East are out dated. But I'm not even sure we can say completely cultural because in some places I see Iran lumped in with the "Middle East" grouping. Might as well just go for an acronym a la BRICS

bushbaba 3y ago

Those researchers likely can still use public cloud environments. Many middle eastern companies have a U.S. branch

slim 3y ago

It just means China has to buy them from Israeli companies. Watch exponential growth of H100 consumption in Israel ;-)

prmoustache 3y ago

> Also pretty sure they mean "political" and not "regional" middle East, so Israel wouldn't be banned. I am not sure there is a clear definition of that. But yes for some reason Israel and Turkia compete in Eurovision while Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt while these are also members of the UER. Sounds to me like the definition is more about the religion and language than political.| Having said that I checked again and Israel is not Middle-East, nor is Middle-East a real geographical area. For example according to wikipedia Egypt and Turkey are considered middle-east while Israel/Jordan/Syria/Lebanon are considered West Asia. Despite the fact that Egypt is more in the West than these 4 countries. We also make a strange distinction between Central-Asia and Middle-East which semantically should mean the same thing. All this to say that the title of the article and the umbrella word "Middle-East" should stop being used and governments as well as news outlets should be more specific.

passwordoops 3y ago
It is funny how the term persisted considering the use of Near and Far East are out dated. But I'm not even sure we can say completely cultural because in some places I see Iran lumped in with the "Middle East" grouping. Might as well just go for an acronym a la BRICS