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To be very clear, Lahaina burning up is not the result of colonialism, but of poor fire prevention measures, including the government response after the fire st
by vonnik 3y ago
To be very clear, Lahaina burning up is not the result of colonialism, but of poor fire prevention measures, including the government response after the fire started.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/a-state-official-refused-to-release-water-for-west-maui-fires-until-it-was-too-late/ https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/a-state-official-refused-t...
- rexpop 3y agoWhat, if anything, can be counted as the result of colonialism? Or can absolutely nothing be? Would you assert that the execution of colonialism was equivalent to the identity function? A complete noop?
- zhengiszen 3y agoStill it is question of change of local vegetation, old farming is cited : https://www.wsj.com/us-news/climate-environment/maui-fire-invasive-grass-cf6dbca2 https://www.wsj.com/us-news/climate-environment/maui-fire-in...
- tlow 3y agoPaywall article… Everybody knew it was a fire risk != climate change. There’s no science in that article that disputes facts: 1. They turned off the water. 2. The left the electrical wires hot. That’s politics not climate change. Your argument is not valid.
- talldatethrow 3y agoDon't forget, they blocked basically the only good exit out of town because that road had "downed power lines". So instead of sending one fire unit to lead the road out and move one power line (I assume most would not be hot if they are AFTER the first broken line, although I guess you don't know which one that is).. they just let people stay back where a major fire was. We wouldn't want you driving over a down power line! Looks like hundreds are dead over basically government ineptitude.
- exodust 3y agoThe person you're replying to didn't mention climate change, nor did the WSJ article they linked. The article says things like: "West Maui dried up over the past 150 years as water was diverted to support an expansion of sugar plantations and then real-estate development." And then talks about how the sugar plantations were abandoned and non-native grasses took over, real thick nasty invasive flammable grass. People said "we should do something about that grass" and they did a bit, but the only way to get rid of the grass is to dig it up, and who's gonna pay for that?
- kingds 3y agowhat does “to be very clear” mean in this context? your article doesn’t clarify anything lol