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Huawei new phone with Chinese 7nm SoC
- kappi 3y agoHuwaeri announces their newest phone with 100% Chinese components to time with US secretary's visit
- borissk 3y agoSo it may be just a bluff.
- borissk 3y agoBig if true. Which Chinese fab can make 7nm chips? I thought the best they have is 14nm. Looks like the performance is similar to SD888 - which is not bad, but far behind the current SD8 gen 2.
- eigenform 3y agoThink it's SMIC (not with EUV though)
- ftxbro 3y agowait isn't 7nm pretty good, the hacker news story about a new thing by intel used 7nm too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37315802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37315802 probably you could do some stuff with enough 7nm chips > a lot of tech breakthrus needed to overcome lack of access to EUVs, TSMC foundries & American RF supply chain and not even use EUV at all? that is a pretty small number of nanometers
- wmf 3y agoKeep in mind that Intel is years behind. TSMC N7 came out in 2018 so SMIC is ~5 years behind. Samsung 7LPP uses EUV but TSMC N7 and Intel 7 don't so it's not required. Without EUV, SMIC will probably be stuck at 7 nm for many years while other fabs reach 2 nm.
- ftxbro 3y agomaybe they will go straight into quantum computing and not bother with archaic liquid tin laser printers
- throwaway4good 3y agoI think SMIC / Huawei will have mass production EUV within two or three years.
- wmf 3y agoWhere do you think they're getting the tooling?
- throwaway4good 3y agoThey are making it themselves ... all of it.
- throwaway4good 3y agoIf Huawei can make enough of these I bet it will seriously cut into the sales of the upcoming iPhone 15 in China.
- ZEITVEKTOR 3y agoMate60 has already been sold in China, but it is said that it is not sold to countries other than China. I wonder if there is any blogger who got this machine and filmed an explanatory video?
- Arnt 3y agoWhat does it actually mean when the 5G chip comes from a 7nm fab instead of a 5nm or 3nm? Does the battery have to weigh 1g more to supply the chip with the extra power and the phone have to be 1mm³ bigger to accommodate the bigger chip and battery, or will the numbers have be bigger? I opened an old phone when I replaced it a few years ago, and described each part to my children. The chips didn't account for much of the volume. I realise that a 3nm chip uses less power for the same processing than a 7nm chip does. Phones are mostly idle, though. Can receive/transmit 100Mbps or whatever, do receive/transmit very, very much less. I'd be thankful if someone who really knows about phone geometry/power could explain.