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European Airline Adds Child Free Zones for $49
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoI would pay $100 for this, perhaps more on long-haul flights. I don't have a problem with children per se. But some kids have behavioral issues and/or clueless, exhausted parents without the self awareness to recognize as much.
- celdon25 3y agoAbout time.
- CobaltFire 3y agoAs a parent of a Special Needs child with behavioral issues: I love this. I would pay for it when traveling solo, and when traveling with my child it would alleviate at least some of my anxiety knowing that those who really hate being around the issues I'm likely to be dealing with should be in a different section. I don't like that it's pay gated though. That means someone less well off who has issues with it is likely to be MORE upset.
- bfuller 3y agoI took a flight from east coast USA to austria where two children on leashes kept poking me in the eyes. I would pay every time.
- freecntflyer 3y agoThat's disgusting - don't encourage it by paying for it. Poke back.
- petre 3y agoOr maybe call on the flight attendant?
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- sMarsIntruder 3y agoJust listen to the commercials on tv/radio in Europe. Basically it’s all about the pet industry. I don’t want to come of as moralistic since I’m for the freedom of choice, but there’s definitely something wrong going on.
- sMarsIntruder 3y agoBiased downvoters, look at the demographics data.
- Moldoteck 3y agoYou should reduce consumption of biased content)
- rayiner 3y agoBiased in what way?
- usr1106 3y agoIt's nearly 20 years but British Airlines had this in a covert way at least on domestic flights: I tried to book for 2 adults and 1 child and got "no seats". When you entered 3, 4, 5 adults seats were available. As a father I was not amused: The reputation damage has costed BA many flights tickets from my family and UK tourism at least one journey to the country. Probably more. I don't deny that children can be disturbing: But 99% it's their stupid parents' fault. Instead of interacting with their children they concentrate on the so-called entertainment system or nowadays their so-called smartphones. Their has been recent research that generation Z has lower social skills and more mental health problems than the previous generation that grew up mostly without electronic devices. Of course it's only a correlation, but causality seems pretty obvious to me.
- petre 3y agoI travelled with a group of adults on a couple of beers heading to a bachelor party. Despite continued excuses, I find most children more tolerable. And I agree that it's almost always the parents' fault.
- pipes 3y agoSo a crying baby is the parents fault? A crying toddler is the parents fault. Before having kids I might have agreed with you. Since having kids, I know it's not always the parents fault. Read any book on raising kids you'll see parents don't have some magic remote control over the children.
- brnt 3y agoWe don't need to assign blame you know. Many things aren't anyone's fault. I don't think most parents want their kids to be noisy of whiny either, it's just how kids often are! Plus, they've just been inserted in a confining and boring environment, perhaps for quite a while, it is only natural that it upsets them a bit. I don't like being in a plane either, I just have the benefit of self control and understanding that it'll be over soon. Kids just don't. Not a whole lot a parent can do about that.
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- usr1106 3y agoWhat would you say if the airline offered a white-only zone for extra money?
- guitarbill 3y agoHonestly, some "adults" are just as bad nowadays. Jamming their legs up against the seat in front. Vigorously smashing the - admittedly sluggish - touch screens. Talking loudly for an entire 5h overnight flight. And worse...
- jen20 3y ago> Jamming their legs up against the seat in front. One has little option when 6’ in a standard pitch seat.
- guitarbill 3y agoI meant feet, not tall people. Some people kinda curl up and brace/wedge themselves on the seat in front. It's... something.
- sidewndr46 3y agoYes, it's because they are tall. You physically cannot get your legs in the area of the seat without jamming them in.
- guitarbill 3y agoIf it's such a jam for tall people just to get their "legs in the area of the seat", how are they managing to put their feet - not legs - against the back of the seat in front? Curled up basically lying on their back? No, it isn't tall people, as I already said.
- charles_f 3y agoDon't forget, watching a movie on PC/phone without earphones...
- pipes 3y agoThere is a special place in hell for these people. Especially ones who let their kids play video games on a phone with the sound on on a flight.
- jamil7 3y agoThis seems like another example of the airline industry’s process of enshitification or premiumisation as it’s called in business. Make your core service shittier and provide endless charges and fees for upgrades or enhancements, some of which were previously bundled with the core service. I’m not a father but something about this rubs me the wrong way and feels anti-social.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoHow's the core service any shittier with this than without? It's a fact that there are numerous people who, for whatever reason, don't take care of their kids while on a flight. That's already a nuisance right now, even though there's no kid-free zone. Since it's impractical to ban "bad parents" from a flight, they chose to ban kids altogether. This is why we can't have nice things. But "this" are the bad parents, not the companies trying to make a buck. Although I doubt that if everyone was a "good parent", they wouldn't look for some other way to nickel and dime us.
- Doctor_Fegg 3y agoWhy does it have to be paid for? Most long distance trains in Britain have a “quiet coach” at no extra fee.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoWho chooses to go in the "not quiet" coach? And is the quiet one actually quiet? Here in France, trains are nominally "call-free" zones, you have to use your phone on the platforms. In practice, nobody does that, and it's not particularly enforced.
- Symbiote 3y agoPeople who don't care, or want to talk to their friend/colleague/family. In my experience the quiet coach is generally quiet.
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- Brajeshwar 3y agoAh! Isn’t this more for the benefit of the Airlines and neither the passengers nor the kids and their parents? Imagine if they introduce stashes of assorted candies, crayons, painting books, and other activity stuff to give it for free to the kids. A tad controversial but as a last resort, what about internationally accepted kid’s medicated cough syrup — will likely make the kid drowsy enough for a calmer experience. Just thinking out loud. I have two daughters who have been flying around since zero-years. I empathize with other parents, and always see if I can help them if needed when their kid starts the routine.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago> what about internationally accepted kid’s medicated cough syrup I'm not a parent, but I'd very likely absolutely hate to have to give some random concoction to drug my kids.
- charles_f 3y agoOf course they do. They hold a power that people will give them money for, they'll go for it. I'm surprised we don't get more of these - pet friendly zones, smoke friendly zones, peanut free zones and peanut allowed zones, and so on. We're so disturbed by anything anyone else is doing that asking for a premium to get any sort of angle is always a profitable
- shaky-carrousel 3y agoWhat they should do is put all the families with kids together. I don't mind a little bit of extra noise around me.
- synaesthesisx 3y agoThat's per flight. Invest in a pair of noise-cancelling headphones and it will pay for itself. Personally, I can't imagine air travel without them.
- jesterson 3y agoGreat idea. I would also add option to stay away from people who allegedly never heard of headphones invention. Affordable internet in the sky makes bring issue of those people in the sky.