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Not without a significant amount of money. Also to get something out of the way, anyone who would "quit" because their employer mandated RTO is an idiot. Let th

Not without a significant amount of money. Also to get something out of the way, anyone who would "quit" because their employer mandated RTO is an idiot. Let them fire you and collect unemployment. I moved from SF to Utah in ~2018, and managed to buy a few rental properties since then, and despite my "income" not keeping pace with my peers in the city my wealth is exceeding them. So the first thing is, the money argument is holding less water every day that goes by. Second, say I went back for more income. The city is not the same city that I left, in fact it's gotten much worse. Why would I want to live in a place where you wake up to sirens, human feces, a government that hates you, and wants to extract every dollar for their failed social experiments? Especially during COVID when they decided to take any shred of trust I had left, set it on fire, and then threw lighter fluid on it. So my answer is somewhere between "Hell No" and "Maybe for a wheelbarrow full of cash"

woofcat 3y ago
>Let them fire you and collect unemployment. Don't know where you live. But here you wouldn't get unemployment for being fired with cause. Declining to do part of your job for no protected reason isn't a valid reason to collect.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal
  - woofcat 3y ago
    If you think being asked to return to the office is constructive dismissal please contact an employment lawyer prior to proceeding.
- mickelsen 3y ago
  Well, but underperforming and coasting could be enough to tip the scale in favor of making the employee redundant. Not sure about America, but another option could be voluntary termination, which wouldn't give you severance but you'd be allowed to collect unemployment for some time.
- porknubbins 3y ago
  Its not that cut and dried. Whether or not you were fired for cause depends on whether its reasonable to ask you to return to office or whether that would be considered forcing you to accept inferior work. An employer cannot arbitrarily change the terms of your job and not pay unemployment if you quit.
circuit 3y ago
> I moved from SF to Utah in ~2018, and managed to buy a few rental properties since then, and despite my "income" not keeping pace with my peers in the city my wealth is exceeding them. So the first thing is, the money argument is holding less water every day that goes by. This is hilarious. You don't have to worry about the financial aspect of your job when you can collect extra income every month as a landlord.
- oceanplexian 3y ago
  It doesn’t mean I don’t have to work, but it does mean I could take a job working at Wendys, continue to save money, and not be financially ruined. When your only source of income comes from one place your employer has a great deal of leverage.

woofcat 3y ago

>Let them fire you and collect unemployment. Don't know where you live. But here you wouldn't get unemployment for being fired with cause. Declining to do part of your job for no protected reason isn't a valid reason to collect.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_dismissal
- woofcat 3y ago
  If you think being asked to return to the office is constructive dismissal please contact an employment lawyer prior to proceeding.
mickelsen 3y ago
Well, but underperforming and coasting could be enough to tip the scale in favor of making the employee redundant. Not sure about America, but another option could be voluntary termination, which wouldn't give you severance but you'd be allowed to collect unemployment for some time.
porknubbins 3y ago
Its not that cut and dried. Whether or not you were fired for cause depends on whether its reasonable to ask you to return to office or whether that would be considered forcing you to accept inferior work. An employer cannot arbitrarily change the terms of your job and not pay unemployment if you quit.

circuit 3y ago

> I moved from SF to Utah in ~2018, and managed to buy a few rental properties since then, and despite my "income" not keeping pace with my peers in the city my wealth is exceeding them. So the first thing is, the money argument is holding less water every day that goes by. This is hilarious. You don't have to worry about the financial aspect of your job when you can collect extra income every month as a landlord.

oceanplexian 3y ago
It doesn’t mean I don’t have to work, but it does mean I could take a job working at Wendys, continue to save money, and not be financially ruined. When your only source of income comes from one place your employer has a great deal of leverage.