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From an incentives perspective, it would make sense that manufacturers would try and inflate their ranges because it helps sell their vehicles; range is very hi

by DeRock 3y ago

From an incentives perspective, it would make sense that manufacturers would try and inflate their ranges because it helps sell their vehicles; range is very high up on customers list when cross shopping EVs. It's unclear to me why Tesla is so unique in this aspect, where they advertise a range that is much higher than what can be achieved, compared to other manufacturers that advertise much more realistic ranges. Is this a facet of the EPA test? I've heard that manufacturers have the option of "self reporting" but don't know what that practically means. I really wish this was more standardized, because it makes comparing cars a pain.

throwaway128128 3y ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/tesla-created-secret-team-to-suppress-thousands-of-driving-range-complaints.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/tesla-created-secret-team-to... Then, when the battery fell below 50% of its maximum charge, the algorithm would show drivers more realistic projections for their remaining driving range, this person said. To prevent drivers from getting stranded as their predicted range started declining more quickly, Teslas were designed with a “safety buffer,” allowing about 15 miles (24 km) of additional range even after the dash readout showed an empty battery, the source said. The directive to present the optimistic range estimates came from Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk, this person said. “Elon wanted to show good range numbers when fully charged,” the person said, adding: “When you buy a car off the lot seeing 350-mile, 400-mile range, it makes you feel good.”
Veserv 3y ago
https://insideevs.com/news/586646/how-tesla-wins-on-epa-estimated-range/amp/ https://insideevs.com/news/586646/how-tesla-wins-on-epa-esti... There are two test formats. Tesla chooses the 5-cycle one which is more favorable due to including and weighting more low speed tests. Other companies use the 2-cycle which weights highway driving more (which is what you do when going long range). Turns out the 2-cycle is more representative of driving where range matters.

by DeRock 3y ago

throwaway128128 3y ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/tesla-created-secret-team-to-suppress-thousands-of-driving-range-complaints.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/tesla-created-secret-team-to... Then, when the battery fell below 50% of its maximum charge, the algorithm would show drivers more realistic projections for their remaining driving range, this person said. To prevent drivers from getting stranded as their predicted range started declining more quickly, Teslas were designed with a “safety buffer,” allowing about 15 miles (24 km) of additional range even after the dash readout showed an empty battery, the source said. The directive to present the optimistic range estimates came from Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk, this person said. “Elon wanted to show good range numbers when fully charged,” the person said, adding: “When you buy a car off the lot seeing 350-mile, 400-mile range, it makes you feel good.”

Veserv 3y ago

https://insideevs.com/news/586646/how-tesla-wins-on-epa-estimated-range/amp/ https://insideevs.com/news/586646/how-tesla-wins-on-epa-esti... There are two test formats. Tesla chooses the 5-cycle one which is more favorable due to including and weighting more low speed tests. Other companies use the 2-cycle which weights highway driving more (which is what you do when going long range). Turns out the 2-cycle is more representative of driving where range matters.