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Encouraging given Australia's reputation as a the Wests's biggest nanny state. It will still be easier for Aussie teens to watch hardcore porn than to play Witc

Encouraging given Australia's reputation as a the Wests's biggest nanny state. It will still be easier for Aussie teens to watch hardcore porn than to play Witcher 2... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_...

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
I don't know, Western EU nations seem to be much bigger nanny states than Australia.
- standardUser 3y ago
  Maybe not the best data, but... Australia is the only county with a link to it's own page on the list of banned games by country... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_by_... And one of two pages with a link to it's own page on the list of banned movies by country, along with China... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    Well yeah they're big on censorship, but that's not the only form of nannying.
    - nerdbert 3y ago
      What else did you have in mind? Onerous rules against charming, delightful Nazi imagery?
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        There was their attempt at the Great Firewall of Australia, while mostly censorship was not just censorship. But honestly there were so many things, it sounds funny but I can't even think of particular examples right now. Oh, smoking is a good example. Doing their best to push adults out of being able to smoke. You can argue it's as justified as you like, but it's still nannying. There's a lot the country restricts because it thinks it knows what's best for its citizens.
        drekipus 3y ago
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        potbelly83 3y ago
        The crazy thing with smoking is that now organized crime have taken over selling cigarettes causing more crime. God forbid they actually help people by doing things like providing affordable living accommodation! Though I think Australians only have themselves to blame as they do tend to worship the self proclaimed experts, and look down on the US for our tendency not to.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Funny thing to me is how so many Australians insist it's the best country in the world to live in, when most have barely traveled anywhere.
        rstuart4133 3y ago
        > Australians insist it's the best country in the world to live in, when most have barely traveled anywhere. Australian here. A couple of international trips ago I visited Berlin and went on one of those free walking tours. I was the only Australian in the tour from what I could tell. The tour took in the Bundestag (German Federal Parliament). The guide proudly pointed out its glass roof as to demonstration the Germany's post Nazi commitment to a transparent democracy. He said that a staircase spirals up the roof. He then joked that in practice, this means when the federal parliamentarians look up, what they see is a bunch of Australian's gazing down on them. I thought it was funny. It had a eery ring of truth to it as no matter where you go, you meet fellow Australians. To put this in perspective, Australia has 0.3% of the worlds population and most of us, as you say, are home. So it's downright weird to keep hearing Australian accents no matter where you go. BTW, have you travelled anywhere, or is this "most have never travelled anywhere" just something you've heard?
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        > So it's downright weird to keep hearing Australian accents no matter where you go. No stranger than hearing English or French accents IMO. Or Canadian. etc. > BTW, have you travelled anywhere, or is this "most have never travelled anywhere" just something you've heard? I've been to just over 60 countries so far, and spent about 7 years basically backpacking straight, and plenty at hostels. That's what colored my cynicism of "Australians travel so prolifically" - most of the time they just had short stops in a city and were there to get drunk. Maybe doing some guided tours as you point out, but rarely going off-road or actually traveling, meeting locals, learning about the culture, etc. You could say many Australians are tourists few are actually 'travelers', if that makes sense.
      - hooverd 3y ago
        The West fell the day Australia banned No Game, No Life. Lolicons are truly the most oppressed class.
        claudiawerner 3y ago
        Pithy comment, but it's a shame that the state is regulating comic materials in the interest of 'child safety' without anything to back it.
      - llm_thr 3y ago
        How about a ban on all communist symbols while were at it? After all China is currently conducting a genocide against its Muslim minorities.
      - esperent 3y ago
        Here's a few: * Extreme drug and supplement regulations (in Ireland I can't even get melatonin or St John's Wort without prescription) * Extreme focus on safety at the expense of freedom. Again in Ireland, it'll take minimum one year but more likely 18 months to get a driving license, and we're subjected to endless government messaging about driving safety even though we have one of the highest levels of road safety in the world. Correlation maybe but if that's the case, they've succeeded and should stop nannying us now * Strict control of public venue closing times. It's frustrating being at a festival and everything shutting down at 11pm because it's a Sunday night * extreme levels of control in the form of bureaucracy - I'd say Germany is the winner here. Getting anything legal or administrative done is a struggle There's a lot more I could list, some big, some small. But the overall feeling is that the state has decided how you should live and wants to control all sorts of minor insignificant parts of your life that they shouldn't have any say in. How dare the government decide whether I can take melatonin or not? It's a small thing, but one of hundreds that add up.
        tstrimple 3y ago
        > * Extreme focus on safety at the expense of freedom. Again in Ireland, it'll take minimum one year but more likely 18 months to get a driving license, and we're subjected to endless government messaging about driving safety even though we have one of the highest levels of road safety in the world. Correlation maybe but if that's the case, they've succeeded and should stop nannying us now This makes absolutely no sense. If the additional instruction has lead to one of the highest levels of road safety in the world, you're proposing that they should become less safe because it's more convenient for people?
        esperent 3y ago
        It's not 18 months of instruction. It's about 3 weeks of instruction and between 11 and 17 months of waiting.
      - verve_rat 3y ago
        Lack of access to abortions?
- decremental 3y ago
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pseudo0 3y ago
You've got New Zealand using CSAM laws to prosecute people who watched the Christchurch video, Canada using emergency power to freeze protestors' bank accounts, and the UK with ubiquitous video surveillance and butter knife control... The whole Anglosphere really seems to be in a race to the bottom.
- test098 3y ago
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  - llm_thr 3y ago
    Your post says a lot more about the race to the bottom than OPs.
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    you just need one crazy individual for a shooting, but a whole system of state and private actors (that should've known better) to implement censorship.
    - esperent 3y ago
      This is too narrow a view. The guy wasn't (just) crazy, he was radicalized by an international online far right hate community. I would venture to say that literally no mass shootings, anywhere, ever, has been the result of "one crazy individual". Certainly none of the ones that make the news. There's always a community, however loosely defined, that radicalized them into thinking that murdering people is a viable solution. That level of descent into madness requires support.
      - depereo 3y ago
        There's a direct line between christchurch and jacksonville. They even put the same decorations on their killing implements. There's absolutely a community around these murders.
      - MostlyStable 3y ago
JosephK 3y ago
Nit-picking, but Witcher 2 is now legal in Australia. It was banned at the time because there was no MA classification available (something that has since been rectified).
- ehnto 3y ago
  And to counter the positive disposition of this nit, they banned Rimworld, not for the part where you can set up a human trafficking and organ harvesting farm, but for the part where you can smoke a green leaf for positive mood.
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PrimeMcFly 3y ago

I don't know, Western EU nations seem to be much bigger nanny states than Australia.

standardUser 3y ago
Maybe not the best data, but... Australia is the only county with a link to it's own page on the list of banned games by country... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_by_... And one of two pages with a link to it's own page on the list of banned movies by country, along with China... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  Well yeah they're big on censorship, but that's not the only form of nannying.
  - nerdbert 3y ago
    What else did you have in mind? Onerous rules against charming, delightful Nazi imagery?
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      There was their attempt at the Great Firewall of Australia, while mostly censorship was not just censorship. But honestly there were so many things, it sounds funny but I can't even think of particular examples right now. Oh, smoking is a good example. Doing their best to push adults out of being able to smoke. You can argue it's as justified as you like, but it's still nannying. There's a lot the country restricts because it thinks it knows what's best for its citizens.
      - drekipus 3y ago
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      - potbelly83 3y ago
        The crazy thing with smoking is that now organized crime have taken over selling cigarettes causing more crime. God forbid they actually help people by doing things like providing affordable living accommodation! Though I think Australians only have themselves to blame as they do tend to worship the self proclaimed experts, and look down on the US for our tendency not to.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Funny thing to me is how so many Australians insist it's the best country in the world to live in, when most have barely traveled anywhere.
        rstuart4133 3y ago
        > Australians insist it's the best country in the world to live in, when most have barely traveled anywhere. Australian here. A couple of international trips ago I visited Berlin and went on one of those free walking tours. I was the only Australian in the tour from what I could tell. The tour took in the Bundestag (German Federal Parliament). The guide proudly pointed out its glass roof as to demonstration the Germany's post Nazi commitment to a transparent democracy. He said that a staircase spirals up the roof. He then joked that in practice, this means when the federal parliamentarians look up, what they see is a bunch of Australian's gazing down on them. I thought it was funny. It had a eery ring of truth to it as no matter where you go, you meet fellow Australians. To put this in perspective, Australia has 0.3% of the worlds population and most of us, as you say, are home. So it's downright weird to keep hearing Australian accents no matter where you go. BTW, have you travelled anywhere, or is this "most have never travelled anywhere" just something you've heard?
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        > So it's downright weird to keep hearing Australian accents no matter where you go. No stranger than hearing English or French accents IMO. Or Canadian. etc. > BTW, have you travelled anywhere, or is this "most have never travelled anywhere" just something you've heard? I've been to just over 60 countries so far, and spent about 7 years basically backpacking straight, and plenty at hostels. That's what colored my cynicism of "Australians travel so prolifically" - most of the time they just had short stops in a city and were there to get drunk. Maybe doing some guided tours as you point out, but rarely going off-road or actually traveling, meeting locals, learning about the culture, etc. You could say many Australians are tourists few are actually 'travelers', if that makes sense.
    - hooverd 3y ago
      The West fell the day Australia banned No Game, No Life. Lolicons are truly the most oppressed class.
      - claudiawerner 3y ago
        Pithy comment, but it's a shame that the state is regulating comic materials in the interest of 'child safety' without anything to back it.
    - llm_thr 3y ago
      How about a ban on all communist symbols while were at it? After all China is currently conducting a genocide against its Muslim minorities.
    - esperent 3y ago
      Here's a few: * Extreme drug and supplement regulations (in Ireland I can't even get melatonin or St John's Wort without prescription) * Extreme focus on safety at the expense of freedom. Again in Ireland, it'll take minimum one year but more likely 18 months to get a driving license, and we're subjected to endless government messaging about driving safety even though we have one of the highest levels of road safety in the world. Correlation maybe but if that's the case, they've succeeded and should stop nannying us now * Strict control of public venue closing times. It's frustrating being at a festival and everything shutting down at 11pm because it's a Sunday night * extreme levels of control in the form of bureaucracy - I'd say Germany is the winner here. Getting anything legal or administrative done is a struggle There's a lot more I could list, some big, some small. But the overall feeling is that the state has decided how you should live and wants to control all sorts of minor insignificant parts of your life that they shouldn't have any say in. How dare the government decide whether I can take melatonin or not? It's a small thing, but one of hundreds that add up.
      - tstrimple 3y ago
        > * Extreme focus on safety at the expense of freedom. Again in Ireland, it'll take minimum one year but more likely 18 months to get a driving license, and we're subjected to endless government messaging about driving safety even though we have one of the highest levels of road safety in the world. Correlation maybe but if that's the case, they've succeeded and should stop nannying us now This makes absolutely no sense. If the additional instruction has lead to one of the highest levels of road safety in the world, you're proposing that they should become less safe because it's more convenient for people?
        esperent 3y ago
        It's not 18 months of instruction. It's about 3 weeks of instruction and between 11 and 17 months of waiting.
    - verve_rat 3y ago
      Lack of access to abortions?
decremental 3y ago
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pseudo0 3y ago

You've got New Zealand using CSAM laws to prosecute people who watched the Christchurch video, Canada using emergency power to freeze protestors' bank accounts, and the UK with ubiquitous video surveillance and butter knife control... The whole Anglosphere really seems to be in a race to the bottom.

test098 3y ago
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- llm_thr 3y ago
  Your post says a lot more about the race to the bottom than OPs.
- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  you just need one crazy individual for a shooting, but a whole system of state and private actors (that should've known better) to implement censorship.
  - esperent 3y ago
    This is too narrow a view. The guy wasn't (just) crazy, he was radicalized by an international online far right hate community. I would venture to say that literally no mass shootings, anywhere, ever, has been the result of "one crazy individual". Certainly none of the ones that make the news. There's always a community, however loosely defined, that radicalized them into thinking that murdering people is a viable solution. That level of descent into madness requires support.
    - depereo 3y ago
      There's a direct line between christchurch and jacksonville. They even put the same decorations on their killing implements. There's absolutely a community around these murders.
    - MostlyStable 3y ago

JosephK 3y ago

Nit-picking, but Witcher 2 is now legal in Australia. It was banned at the time because there was no MA classification available (something that has since been rectified).

ehnto 3y ago
And to counter the positive disposition of this nit, they banned Rimworld, not for the part where you can set up a human trafficking and organ harvesting farm, but for the part where you can smoke a green leaf for positive mood.

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