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The tattoo thing really shocked me but I've seen people with Nike logo tattoos, of their own free will, choosing (unpaid!) for their body to be an advertisment

The tattoo thing really shocked me but I've seen people with Nike logo tattoos, of their own free will, choosing (unpaid!) for their body to be an advertisment for a company. So I guess so what, if you're sufficiently stupid or ovine.

Fnoord 3y ago
I suppose it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw back end 2001 which was used to protest War in Afghanistan (and later Iraq) back in the days. That logo as tattoo would surely lead to conflicts back then. Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. Or situations where your tattoo is inappropriate (nevermind the hypothetical example above, think about wearing wrong brand in areas of LA). There's probably even a name for these phenomenons. The crown though is sportsmen. Sportsmen with an abundance of tattoos. While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures. I've seen it in football (which Americans call soccer), I think it was David Beckham who set the trend here (regarding the full body tattoos).
- tremon 3y ago
  it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw I've never heard of this before. Isn't it a bit... tasteless, at the least, to get a tattoo of a wing in relation to 9/11?
  - Fnoord 3y ago
    Oh it was (I wasn't able to find the picture, might retry in weekend). The person I knew who used that avatar was a friendly guy but... some people just really hate the USA being world police. You know, Chomsky followers, for example. I'd say in 2023 it has been pointed out by world events the USA is the best world police. Because the alternatives are far more nefarious. Anyway, tasteless, sure I can follow that. Is it going to lead to physical aggression? Very possibly. There's other examples, too. People getting swastikas having to hide them at work or later renouncing such politics. Relationships breaking up, painful reminder. Military people getting tortured over having certain tattoos (happening in a current military conflict) And to the person claiming I'm a bot, you should read the news guidelines about making such statement. If you want you can use some tooling for such to give your comment merit but before you put time into that see my other comments.
    - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
      This > While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures appeared a very stupid comment indeed. However I am wrong and will always admit it and learn from it, so do you have any links to show that tatts, once healed, affect body temperature detectably? (edit: looks like I am wrong. I take it all back with fulsome apologies).
      - jjulius 3y ago
        It's one of those "a single study said so" sorta things. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32881627/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32881627/
        _a_a_a_ 3y ago
        You are right, and this study looks plausible. Ok, I am wrong. Thanks.
    - jjulius 3y ago
      >And to the person claiming I'm a bot... To be fair, this comment and your comment before it both read a bit nonsensically.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  > I suppose it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw back end 2001 which was used to protest War in Afghanistan (and later Iraq) back in the days. That logo as tattoo would surely lead to conflicts back then. I have no knowledge of this, can you give me a few pointers please? > Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point wat the ever utter fuck? 100% crap. > While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures (criticusm removed. Study quoted elsewhere on this thread looks plausible and credible).
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. This is certainly untrue. People get tattoos for all sorts of reasons, and those that get them after due thought and because they have real meaning to them don't tend to regret them at all. That said, I have seen people get tattoos on a lark, and the tattoos they get don't really mean anything to them. Those people are more likely to regret them later -- but even then, they often don't.
  - Fnoord 3y ago
    Guaranteed is untrue, I agree, that statement was a tad too bold (too bad its tattooed on HN without being able to nuance it). In a lifetime? Potentially enough yes to not opt for such. Tho there is different size and place, I'd say the main issue is with ones which end up practically 24/7 public. If I look at my own life, then in every situation a t-shirt or sweater with statement or brand would make more sense than a tattoo. These can translate a meaning just as well, but allow to switch based on social setting. Which very much changes throughout life. Religious, political, romantic, hobby, passion statements are fluctuating within a person's life. Just in different likeliness. Even when one believes they don't. So Alice thinks Bob is the one, and Alice gets a Bob tattoo. After all they're 12,5 years together, must be enough for forever? And she had an Aum from her youth, and a logo of her favorite band, Nirvana. 10 years later, Bob dies in a car accident. Alice meets Charlie, a Catholic. Alice eventually wants to replace her Bob tattoo with a Charlie tattoo, and resents her Hindu passion. She refined her music taste. Charlie loses Catholicism as Alice isn't Catholic. However, since he worn a cross necklace, no tattoo has to be removed. Regarding Nirvana? Ah, turns out Kurt Cobain did some #metoo stuff which got finally uncovered. There goes your idol. So yes even things seemingly non-volatile and stable can change. And thoughout a lifetime, its very likely they will. Same with biohacking NFC chips under your skin. In 10 years vulnerabilities are found in the chips or the keypair doesn't fit anymore or they figure they can be compelled to authenticate (robbery, law enforcement). My wife has a tattoo and had a piercing, I had a piercing. We both regret the piercings (hers was nipple, mine was eyebrow) cause of complications. The tattoo seems more silly to me though, though only visible to public in swimming pool. You see, we're in such a quick pace and globalization has succeeded there isn't much we can take for granted in our lifetimes. The job tattoo thingy is just an example. And since I have needle phobia I'd say no thank you with that as reasoning first and foremost. (The observant reader might notice a person with needle phobia having received a piercing in past. I did not realize I would need anesthesia via a syringe; I thought some kind of patch on skin would've been suffice. I didn't look into it enough. So I panicked and literally ran out of the shop and would not get my money back, so I bitten the bullet. Don't think I had to pay extra so I suppose that was nice. The severity can also differ a bit and for medical related I've used oxazepam with success recently. Tho I recognize its addictive nature and hence would prefer not to regularly use such.)
- jjulius 3y ago
  >Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. Or situations where your tattoo is inappropriate What odd, and false, blanket generalizations.
  - asveikau 3y ago
    I think I get this. Some people just aren't tattoo people and don't understand the motivations of people with tattoos. I can relate to that. Which is why if I'm being smart, I'd be cautious trying to talk about tattoos. Commenter is probably just a fish out of water, no judgement.
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Fnoord 3y ago

I suppose it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw back end 2001 which was used to protest War in Afghanistan (and later Iraq) back in the days. That logo as tattoo would surely lead to conflicts back then. Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. Or situations where your tattoo is inappropriate (nevermind the hypothetical example above, think about wearing wrong brand in areas of LA). There's probably even a name for these phenomenons. The crown though is sportsmen. Sportsmen with an abundance of tattoos. While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures. I've seen it in football (which Americans call soccer), I think it was David Beckham who set the trend here (regarding the full body tattoos).

tremon 3y ago
it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw I've never heard of this before. Isn't it a bit... tasteless, at the least, to get a tattoo of a wing in relation to 9/11?
- Fnoord 3y ago
  Oh it was (I wasn't able to find the picture, might retry in weekend). The person I knew who used that avatar was a friendly guy but... some people just really hate the USA being world police. You know, Chomsky followers, for example. I'd say in 2023 it has been pointed out by world events the USA is the best world police. Because the alternatives are far more nefarious. Anyway, tasteless, sure I can follow that. Is it going to lead to physical aggression? Very possibly. There's other examples, too. People getting swastikas having to hide them at work or later renouncing such politics. Relationships breaking up, painful reminder. Military people getting tortured over having certain tattoos (happening in a current military conflict) And to the person claiming I'm a bot, you should read the news guidelines about making such statement. If you want you can use some tooling for such to give your comment merit but before you put time into that see my other comments.
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    This > While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures appeared a very stupid comment indeed. However I am wrong and will always admit it and learn from it, so do you have any links to show that tatts, once healed, affect body temperature detectably? (edit: looks like I am wrong. I take it all back with fulsome apologies).
    - jjulius 3y ago
      It's one of those "a single study said so" sorta things. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32881627/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32881627/
      - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
        You are right, and this study looks plausible. Ok, I am wrong. Thanks.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >And to the person claiming I'm a bot... To be fair, this comment and your comment before it both read a bit nonsensically.
_a_a_a_ 3y ago
> I suppose it wasn't the 9/11 WTC Nike "Just Do It" logo I saw back end 2001 which was used to protest War in Afghanistan (and later Iraq) back in the days. That logo as tattoo would surely lead to conflicts back then. I have no knowledge of this, can you give me a few pointers please? > Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point wat the ever utter fuck? 100% crap. > While tattoos make you more warm, requiring more sweat elsewhere, bottom line leading to higher body temperatures (criticusm removed. Study quoted elsewhere on this thread looks plausible and credible).
JohnFen 3y ago
> Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. This is certainly untrue. People get tattoos for all sorts of reasons, and those that get them after due thought and because they have real meaning to them don't tend to regret them at all. That said, I have seen people get tattoos on a lark, and the tattoos they get don't really mean anything to them. Those people are more likely to regret them later -- but even then, they often don't.
- Fnoord 3y ago
  Guaranteed is untrue, I agree, that statement was a tad too bold (too bad its tattooed on HN without being able to nuance it). In a lifetime? Potentially enough yes to not opt for such. Tho there is different size and place, I'd say the main issue is with ones which end up practically 24/7 public. If I look at my own life, then in every situation a t-shirt or sweater with statement or brand would make more sense than a tattoo. These can translate a meaning just as well, but allow to switch based on social setting. Which very much changes throughout life. Religious, political, romantic, hobby, passion statements are fluctuating within a person's life. Just in different likeliness. Even when one believes they don't. So Alice thinks Bob is the one, and Alice gets a Bob tattoo. After all they're 12,5 years together, must be enough for forever? And she had an Aum from her youth, and a logo of her favorite band, Nirvana. 10 years later, Bob dies in a car accident. Alice meets Charlie, a Catholic. Alice eventually wants to replace her Bob tattoo with a Charlie tattoo, and resents her Hindu passion. She refined her music taste. Charlie loses Catholicism as Alice isn't Catholic. However, since he worn a cross necklace, no tattoo has to be removed. Regarding Nirvana? Ah, turns out Kurt Cobain did some #metoo stuff which got finally uncovered. There goes your idol. So yes even things seemingly non-volatile and stable can change. And thoughout a lifetime, its very likely they will. Same with biohacking NFC chips under your skin. In 10 years vulnerabilities are found in the chips or the keypair doesn't fit anymore or they figure they can be compelled to authenticate (robbery, law enforcement). My wife has a tattoo and had a piercing, I had a piercing. We both regret the piercings (hers was nipple, mine was eyebrow) cause of complications. The tattoo seems more silly to me though, though only visible to public in swimming pool. You see, we're in such a quick pace and globalization has succeeded there isn't much we can take for granted in our lifetimes. The job tattoo thingy is just an example. And since I have needle phobia I'd say no thank you with that as reasoning first and foremost. (The observant reader might notice a person with needle phobia having received a piercing in past. I did not realize I would need anesthesia via a syringe; I thought some kind of patch on skin would've been suffice. I didn't look into it enough. So I panicked and literally ran out of the shop and would not get my money back, so I bitten the bullet. Don't think I had to pay extra so I suppose that was nice. The severity can also differ a bit and for medical related I've used oxazepam with success recently. Tho I recognize its addictive nature and hence would prefer not to regularly use such.)
jjulius 3y ago
>Every tattoo is going to lead to regret at some point. Or situations where your tattoo is inappropriate What odd, and false, blanket generalizations.
- asveikau 3y ago
  I think I get this. Some people just aren't tattoo people and don't understand the motivations of people with tattoos. I can relate to that. Which is why if I'm being smart, I'd be cautious trying to talk about tattoos. Commenter is probably just a fish out of water, no judgement.
  - deleted 3y ago
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