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Because if you look around at sophisticated military hardware (which these drones, when they will exist, will be) it's all like that. I feel that the point our

Because if you look around at sophisticated military hardware (which these drones, when they will exist, will be) it's all like that. I feel that the point our stances diverge is you feel these kind of weapons systems would become something a skilled hacker could make in a shed out of AliExpress parts for a 10$ bom, whereas I view it as being a complex weapon system that would be sophisticated and relies on battlefield infrastructure and complex supply chains to be feasible to properly deploy. I think if you look at cutting edge weapons, my belief is no hacker could build them in their garage, no matter how sophisticated. Hell, take a look at the pathetic state of "3d printed" weapons to see how I imagine DIY "slaughterbots" would look like. And acquiring the real weapons would not be easy at all. Heck, even now, if you want to acquire for your projects certain camera or heat sensors you have tons of hoops to jump through to get your hands on them. Besides, even IF it would be something a DIY-er could do, someone wanting to kill civilians would probably use the most effective tools, least resource intensive, least effort tool, least conspicuous to gather resources and this would not be it. Today any maniac can use a car to plow down civilians or get a gun and go on a rampage. That is low effort high impact. This would be a lot higher effort. Probably kind of the same impact.

varjag 3y ago
FPV killer drones used in Ukraine now are really slapdash designs: often just motors on a flat fixture with a charge rubber-banded to it. They are used to devastating effect. The only part of this technology that is remotely possible to tackle on is proliferation of explosives.
- RealityVoid 3y ago
  Fully agree. I mentioned in my original post I believe them to be very capable on a battlefield. But from there to slaughterbots like targeter drones there is a looong way. I believe my points still remain valid.
- lazide 3y ago
  Explosives being squirreled away (and practically untraceable) by any number of actors in that theatre right now by the ton.
Ancapistani 3y ago
> Because if you look around at sophisticated military hardware (which these drones, when they will exist, will be) it's all like that. I agree that it will be much like sophisticated military hardware is today - but I say that as someone within 20’ of his own third-generation night vision, body armor, and weapons that are approximately on par with that of a contemporary US soldier. > Heck, even now, if you want to acquire for your projects certain camera or heat sensors you have tons of hoops to jump through to get your hands on them Nonsense. You can order very usable thermal sensors from China, shipped to your door. You can order even more capable sensors that are covered by ITAR and prohibited for export without so much as signing something. A notice on the website saying that they’re restricted to the US is the extent of it. > Today any maniac can use a car to plow down civilians or get a gun and go on a rampage. That is low effort high impact. This would be a lot higher effort. Probably kind of the same impact. I totally agree with you here. Firearms aren’t the most effective way to cause harm to a large number of people even today; drones certainly won’t be for the foreseeable future.
Teever 3y ago
These drones won't be sophisticated. They'll be cheaper versions of off the shelf drones. Quantity > Quality. Imagine a drone that flies towards a cellphone signal and when it gets within range does some basic shape recognition and adjusts it's course to fly towards a the nearest neck until it detonates a crude fragementation grenade. How much would a drone that can do that cost today? They don't need to be durable as they are meant for single use, and they don't need to be particularly fast, just faster than a person can run.
hippich 3y ago
Just a small note - you should really research 3d printed firearms.. it advanced _alot_. Became reliable, accurate. Google "orca AR-15" to get a taste

varjag 3y ago

FPV killer drones used in Ukraine now are really slapdash designs: often just motors on a flat fixture with a charge rubber-banded to it. They are used to devastating effect. The only part of this technology that is remotely possible to tackle on is proliferation of explosives.

RealityVoid 3y ago
Fully agree. I mentioned in my original post I believe them to be very capable on a battlefield. But from there to slaughterbots like targeter drones there is a looong way. I believe my points still remain valid.
lazide 3y ago
Explosives being squirreled away (and practically untraceable) by any number of actors in that theatre right now by the ton.

Ancapistani 3y ago

> Because if you look around at sophisticated military hardware (which these drones, when they will exist, will be) it's all like that. I agree that it will be much like sophisticated military hardware is today - but I say that as someone within 20’ of his own third-generation night vision, body armor, and weapons that are approximately on par with that of a contemporary US soldier. > Heck, even now, if you want to acquire for your projects certain camera or heat sensors you have tons of hoops to jump through to get your hands on them Nonsense. You can order very usable thermal sensors from China, shipped to your door. You can order even more capable sensors that are covered by ITAR and prohibited for export without so much as signing something. A notice on the website saying that they’re restricted to the US is the extent of it. > Today any maniac can use a car to plow down civilians or get a gun and go on a rampage. That is low effort high impact. This would be a lot higher effort. Probably kind of the same impact. I totally agree with you here. Firearms aren’t the most effective way to cause harm to a large number of people even today; drones certainly won’t be for the foreseeable future.

Teever 3y ago

These drones won't be sophisticated. They'll be cheaper versions of off the shelf drones. Quantity > Quality. Imagine a drone that flies towards a cellphone signal and when it gets within range does some basic shape recognition and adjusts it's course to fly towards a the nearest neck until it detonates a crude fragementation grenade. How much would a drone that can do that cost today? They don't need to be durable as they are meant for single use, and they don't need to be particularly fast, just faster than a person can run.

hippich 3y ago

Just a small note - you should really research 3d printed firearms.. it advanced _alot_. Became reliable, accurate. Google "orca AR-15" to get a taste