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> ...GeForce Now also works fine on a plain old Chromecast with Google TV ($30), which you can connect standard Bluetooth controllers to (say, Xbox controllers

by binkHN 3y ago

> ...GeForce Now also works fine on a plain old Chromecast with Google TV ($30), which you can connect standard Bluetooth controllers to (say, Xbox controllers or leftover Stadia controllers with the firmware upgrade). How is the latency in this configuration? I thought the main reason Google used the Wi-Fi built into the Stadia controllers was to get around this.

solardev 3y ago
I wouldn't want to play a shooter on it, but (say) Baldur's Gate 3 co-op with Xbox controllers worked great. Latency wasn't an issue. I think the Bluetooth latency is going to be less than the wifi latency (Chromecast has no ethernet port) plus the roundtrip to the Nvidia servers anyway. (edit: Chromecast with Google TV, that is. Chromecast Ultra, a different device, does have ethernet) I've also used GeForce Now on a hardwired gigabit fiber connection on my desktop, and even then I wouldn't consider the latency suitable for competitive first-person shooters. But it worked great for most other genres of games. Basically anything will work fine where a software cursor is used (where you don't update frames until a hover or a click), as opposed to a crosshaired 3D game that requires constant frame redraws on every mouse motion (shooters). That's just me though... as a lifelong PC gamer, many actual consoles + smart TVs (especially when they're not in gaming mode) also have unacceptable latency to me, but I think millions of people wouldn't even notice. It's worth a shot, especially if you can just hook up an existing computer to your TV (via HDMI or whatever) and get a feel for it that way. The Stadia controller thing over wifi thing was always bullshit. I had their controllers and it was never noticeably better or worse than a standard Xbox controller wirelessly connected to GeForce Now. And once Stadia died they enabled Bluetooth on it and it still works fine. shrug* Stadia's marketing made a lot of questionable, and sometimes demonstrably false, claims.
- binkHN 3y ago
  > Chromecast has no ethernet port I exclusively used the Chromecast Ultra that had the Ethernet port in the power supply when using Stadia with the controllers.
  - solardev 3y ago
    Yeah, that'd probably work better, but any hardwired connection would vs WiFi. i.e. it's not how your controllers connect to the device that matters, but how your device connects to the Nvidia servers. GFN works WAY better on a hardwired connection, but it's tolerable on a wifi TV (if occasionally glitchy, in terms of compression artifacts)... I wouldn't call that latency per se, just wifi instability.

by binkHN 3y ago

solardev 3y ago

I wouldn't want to play a shooter on it, but (say) Baldur's Gate 3 co-op with Xbox controllers worked great. Latency wasn't an issue. I think the Bluetooth latency is going to be less than the wifi latency (Chromecast has no ethernet port) plus the roundtrip to the Nvidia servers anyway. (edit: Chromecast with Google TV, that is. Chromecast Ultra, a different device, does have ethernet) I've also used GeForce Now on a hardwired gigabit fiber connection on my desktop, and even then I wouldn't consider the latency suitable for competitive first-person shooters. But it worked great for most other genres of games. Basically anything will work fine where a software cursor is used (where you don't update frames until a hover or a click), as opposed to a crosshaired 3D game that requires constant frame redraws on every mouse motion (shooters). That's just me though... as a lifelong PC gamer, many actual consoles + smart TVs (especially when they're not in gaming mode) also have unacceptable latency to me, but I think millions of people wouldn't even notice. It's worth a shot, especially if you can just hook up an existing computer to your TV (via HDMI or whatever) and get a feel for it that way. The Stadia controller thing over wifi thing was always bullshit. I had their controllers and it was never noticeably better or worse than a standard Xbox controller wirelessly connected to GeForce Now. And once Stadia died they enabled Bluetooth on it and it still works fine. shrug* Stadia's marketing made a lot of questionable, and sometimes demonstrably false, claims.

binkHN 3y ago
> Chromecast has no ethernet port I exclusively used the Chromecast Ultra that had the Ethernet port in the power supply when using Stadia with the controllers.
- solardev 3y ago
  Yeah, that'd probably work better, but any hardwired connection would vs WiFi. i.e. it's not how your controllers connect to the device that matters, but how your device connects to the Nvidia servers. GFN works WAY better on a hardwired connection, but it's tolerable on a wifi TV (if occasionally glitchy, in terms of compression artifacts)... I wouldn't call that latency per se, just wifi instability.