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I think you just agreed with the point of the article which is to "disagree and commit", instead of companies being wishy-washy in their policies. Sounds like

I think you just agreed with the point of the article which is to "disagree and commit", instead of companies being wishy-washy in their policies. Sounds like an ideal experience.

deagle50 3y ago
It's just code for "do it anyway", which would be fine in exchange for payment if expressed honestly.
- brailsafe 3y ago
  Do it anyway as in the employees should commit to their stance on working remotely , or Amazon should commit to their stance on RTO? Re-reading it, it's hard to parse for some reason.
  - knownastron 3y ago
    In Amazon-speak, "disagree and commit" means even if you disagree with the decision, you still commit to following the decision whole heartedly. You can't just debate endlessly or put in less effort because your preferred option was not chosen. See "Have Backbone; Disagree and Commit": https://www.amazon.jobs/content/en/our-workplace/leadership-principles https://www.amazon.jobs/content/en/our-workplace/leadership-...
    - brailsafe 3y ago
      Ah, so in this circumstance, bend the knee because daddy Amazon knows best, not that I necessarily disagree with the notion in principle.
      - user_named 3y ago
        So what's the point of your comment
        brailsafe 3y ago
        Just an anecdote that reflects my disdain for arbitrary RTO policies. It's news to me that comments need be anything more than comments.
    - flangola7 3y ago
      Except for the fact that I'm not going to commit to working in an office. COVID showed what kind of life is actually possible. Eliminating the commute alone means 10 more hours I get to spend with my family each week. I don't care how nice their campus is or what kinds of espresso machine they have. I'm not going back into an office, ever. Period.
      - harryquach 3y ago
        Actually being able to have lunch and dinner with my kids is worth more than anything Amazon, Google, Meta, etc could ever offer
        brailsafe 3y ago
        You can't buy back your time, so be careful what you sell it for
brailsafe 3y ago
It's hard to tell what they meant by that. Did they mean it's time that Amazon disagrees with Employees who want to work remotely and commits to it by firing them? What did you mean by "Sounds like an ideal experience."?

I think you just agreed with the point of the article which is to "disagree and commit", instead of companies being wishy-washy in their policies. Sounds like an ideal experience.

deagle50 3y ago

It's just code for "do it anyway", which would be fine in exchange for payment if expressed honestly.

brailsafe 3y ago
Do it anyway as in the employees should commit to their stance on working remotely , or Amazon should commit to their stance on RTO? Re-reading it, it's hard to parse for some reason.
- knownastron 3y ago
  In Amazon-speak, "disagree and commit" means even if you disagree with the decision, you still commit to following the decision whole heartedly. You can't just debate endlessly or put in less effort because your preferred option was not chosen. See "Have Backbone; Disagree and Commit": https://www.amazon.jobs/content/en/our-workplace/leadership-principles https://www.amazon.jobs/content/en/our-workplace/leadership-...
  - brailsafe 3y ago
    Ah, so in this circumstance, bend the knee because daddy Amazon knows best, not that I necessarily disagree with the notion in principle.
    - user_named 3y ago
      So what's the point of your comment
      - brailsafe 3y ago
        Just an anecdote that reflects my disdain for arbitrary RTO policies. It's news to me that comments need be anything more than comments.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Except for the fact that I'm not going to commit to working in an office. COVID showed what kind of life is actually possible. Eliminating the commute alone means 10 more hours I get to spend with my family each week. I don't care how nice their campus is or what kinds of espresso machine they have. I'm not going back into an office, ever. Period.
    - harryquach 3y ago
      Actually being able to have lunch and dinner with my kids is worth more than anything Amazon, Google, Meta, etc could ever offer
      - brailsafe 3y ago
        You can't buy back your time, so be careful what you sell it for

brailsafe 3y ago

It's hard to tell what they meant by that. Did they mean it's time that Amazon disagrees with Employees who want to work remotely and commits to it by firing them? What did you mean by "Sounds like an ideal experience."?